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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Where Eagles Dare/Operation Crossbow
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2011 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

There is a sense of catching up and of time running out as we don't know how long many of these cds are going to be around.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2011 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I know. The two Disney titles will have to wait. SAE will have their hands full across the board.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

Grecchus - prepare for Goodwin perfection!! You will need to sit in an armchair opposite your speakers and tie yourself down!!


"...I don't expect you to be believe me Major but you'll certainly believe these names in my pocket, if you'll permit me to show them to you..."

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

One of the best cd's FSM ever produced, excellent sound, amazing music, what more could you ask for?

Lieutenant, in the next 15 minutes we have to create enough confusion to get out of here alive.
Major, right now you got me about as confused as I ever hope to be.

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

Major: To me you're a punk, and a second rate one at that.

Eastwood: Thanks (?)

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

"You could have at least supplied an electrically heated blanket!"

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Awesome score, Top 10 of all time! My brain always wants a resolve which, while almost frustrating is also quite the hook.

I've never understood why Clint Eastwood was even in this movie. His character rarely did more than to tell Major Smith stuff he already knew. "We've got company." "Yes, I saw them in the mirror." - So, why didn't you tell Schaffer, Major?

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

Germans running up the staircase ... Burton looks at Eastwood and hands him his Machine Pistol (MP40).

Burton: "You may need this".

Later as stick grenades overwhelm Eastwood and he backs off.

Eastwood: "Grenades".

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   David Anthony   (Member)

Great score, but I much prefer the LP presentation from a listening perspective. Very rarely listen to the FSM cd. Guess thats just me though. Goodwin's themes are great, but his suspense/incidental music is pretty boring. Dave

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

Great score, but I much prefer the LP presentation from a listening perspective. Very rarely listen to the FSM cd. Guess thats just me though. Goodwin's themes are great, but his suspense/incidental music is pretty boring. Dave


What?????????!!!!!!!!

I think we better just stick with endless dialogue quotes.

Could go on for days....

And kids wonder why we get so frustated that there is such lousy, unmemorable dialogue in virtually every film in the last 20 years!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   David Anthony   (Member)

Hi Miguel

What's your problem, please explain. I do not recall any dialogue on the WHERE EAGLES DARE lp..?

All I am saying is that from a listening perspective I love the sequencing on the LP, the CD runs too long (am I turning into Thor?).

Dave

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

Great score, but I much prefer the LP presentation from a listening perspective. Very rarely listen to the FSM cd. Guess thats just me though. Goodwin's themes are great, but his suspense/incidental music is pretty boring. Dave

Everyone to their own......but "boring" is not a word that I'd use to describe Ron Goodwin's suspense/incidental music.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   David Anthony   (Member)

That's right Chris, just expressing my opinion. I have pretty much all of Goodwin's scores and IMHO he does write great themes, but his scores are not always satisfactory to listen to as a whole. Music has a functional purpose in movies right, so this is not a criticism of his scores, just talking from a listening point of view.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

Hi Miguel

What's your problem, please explain. I do not recall any dialogue on the WHERE EAGLES DARE lp..?

All I am saying is that from a listening perspective I love the sequencing on the LP, the CD runs too long (am I turning into Thor?).

Dave



No, There isnt any dialogue on the LP.

Me mild and chris were quoting from the film - and I was making the comment that we have so many to choose from in one film we could go on for days (and probably will now!).

And I also added that there is such lousy crap utterly forgettable dialogue in so many films of the last 20 years - but that 60s and 70s classics were regularly brimful with great lines (not Tarantino copied shit, but proper great dialogue). Some films had dozens and dozens of memorable lines (W Bunch, Cool Hand Luke, Magnificent seven, dirty dozen, Battle of Britain, Patton, Spartacus, GBU, Professionals, Zulu, Orrence, OUATITW, Wild Geese, Emperor of the North, Charley Varrick, etc etc, just a handful off the top of my head). It was something that clearly film-makers took a little more time over back then.

I was just saying What???? to your comment that Goodwin's suspense music in WED is boring.

Because I couldnt believe anyone could have that view.

Possibly of one or two of his other scores like the Caan submarine one but not of Where Eagles dare - it lives and breathes, well, like a living and breathing thing and there isnt a wasted note in the whole score!

Each to their own, Dave. You use boring. I say brilliant.

Tommy Cooper never had to explain his gags did he????




"...I seem to remember zat ze cathedral voss on ze ozzer side of ze square...??!!"

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

I agree WED has some cracking good dialogue in.

One more for good luck;

Look, Major, this is primarily a British operation. I'm an American. I don't even know why the hell I'm here.

Lieutenant, you're here because you're an American.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   David Anthony   (Member)

Thanks for explaining Miguel, just did'nt get your sense of humur there! Anyhow, I think it's just the case that like quite a few 'expanded' scores, I still prefer the sequencing of the LP's from a listening point of view. The FSM 'WED' just goes on a little too long, and I'm waiting for that fantastic theme to appear again, and the suspense music just meanders along without going anywhere. Of cause there is some other great action music on there, but it does'nt hold my attention for the whole cd.

Anywhere after this discussion I'm putting the FSM cd on again tonight!

PS Did you get Fidenco's PER IL GUSTO DI UCCIDERE on GDM, it's a superb Italian western score.

Dave

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

Yes I did, I liked it,- still not sure if its Yankee Fellow or lanky Fellow (see track lists)! good song though. But it left me longing for more of that "Goodwin incidental music that just meanders along without going anywhere."!!!!! (Like Chase to the airfield and the cable car ascent and descent).




"...Efferybody stay exakklee where ze are until I find out vot ist going on here..."

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

"Another Snaps - Then I will escort you to your quaters"

Fraulein!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   David Anthony   (Member)

Well Miguel I'm gonna have to give this cd a good listen again tonight! It's a long cd as far as I recall, I have'nt gone into individual tracks, but I did say in my comments there's some other great music on there as well as the fantastic theme. The LP is around 40 minutes long so there's a lot of music on this I love.
I'll try and post my comments tomorrow, great convo anyway.

Dave

PS I think it's 'Lanky Fellow'.

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2011 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

This is a fan site devoted to WED;

http://www.whereeaglesdare.com/movie/index.php

 
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