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 Posted:   Mar 19, 2009 - 6:21 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)


When I played Minority Report a while ago, a score my son likes (my daughter complains that the bass through the sub-woofer shakes the house!) he suddenly said: "Didn't it ever occur to him that this sounds just like Star Wars?"


Man, I wish my family would've had conversations like that! Ours went like this (true story!):

The Time: Summer, 1980: 9-year-old me playing the 2-LP TESB, the "Asteroid Field."

Grandmother: "What's that?"

Grandfather: "It's theme music."

Me: [excitedly] "It's from The Emprire Strikes Back, the seq--"

Grandmother: "I don't like it."

Me: *Continues to live in own mind and begins to realize what "Black Sheep of the Family" means.*

BTW, I'm not the biggest Williams fan myself, but I'd be hard pressed to find a composer who had such a spectacular run as he did from 1975-1983. Those scores are "overexposed", but it's the music that got two generations into film music, and for that I'll always be grateful---if not a completist!

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2009 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)


When I played Minority Report a while ago, a score my son likes (my daughter complains that the bass through the sub-woofer shakes the house!) he suddenly said: "Didn't it ever occur to him that this sounds just like Star Wars?"


Man, I wish my family would've had conversations like that!


I'm very lucky: my wife accepts most of my music (she dislikes C&W, Opera and ... so I rarely play anything like that, and in the OST field she's not too happy hearing the moaning/ecstatic female voices which feature on some Ennio Morricone scores). My daughter (now 19) doesn't mind the quieter scores and actually likes some, such as In the Heat Of The Night. Whilst my son (nearing 21) positively likes a lot - his mp3 player is full of mostly my OST CDs.

Back on topic: when I was living at home with my parents back in the late 70's I borrowed the original double LP of Star Wars but by the end of side 1 my parents said "No more".

Then again, when I set-up my father's music centre for pseudo-quadrophonic sound, I chose to play "Chateau Fight" from Thunderball - rather loud - and was told: "We're not having that!" I was married, living elsewhere by the time I got a 5.1 system!

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2009 - 6:53 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Man, I wish my family would've had conversations like that! ... *Continues to live in own mind and begins to realize what "Black Sheep of the Family" means.*

That's what we're here for, buddy. There might have been only one kid in any given town who went through it, and he might have had to wait years for the Internet to be invented, but now we have a community.

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2009 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

My dad used to call film music "funeral music" but I knew he has half kidding. I just shrugged him away. Hey, if Mom hadn't intervened to let me wear stylishly long hair in the early 70's, I would have been wearing a crew cut- Dad was just jealous I had more hair. And better taste in a lot of things. big grin

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2009 - 7:37 PM   
 By:   Trent B   (Member)

I'm sorry, John who? Oh you mean the old wrinkled bald guy? Nope not a Williams completest.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2009 - 9:13 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Yeah. Soundtracks anyway.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2009 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

I am a "completist" in regards to only two composers: Williams and Goldsmith. I know that I will never have a "complete" collection, but it's a hobby.

I have archived my entire Williams and Goldsmith collection on my hard drive (with back up of course) in as close to chronological order as is possible, and enjoy making various playlists or randoms - nice mixes.

My Williams collection is more complete than my Goldsmith (as he has to date produced fewer scores).

As to the cost, most of the newer music just doesn't grab me, so while I thrill for those out there who get their "holy grails" of late, few of those find their way into my collection. This leaves my extra $$$ (now a days more like $/2) for what I would really like. Besides, I think most of what will be released of both Williams' and Goldsmith's past work is out and I have all that I'm likely to get beyond the occaisional CD every now and then.

...Also, I have been collecting scores by these men and more since 1977, so it's accrued over time. If I was to start fresh now... forget it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2009 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Miguel Andrade   (Member)

I am a Williams completist, both Williams the composer and Williams the performer.
I've just finally got his 1958 recording of South Pacific tunes, playing as part of a piano duo. Great stuff.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2009 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I've never tried to get a composer's whole career on disc. I can more readily imagine myself becoming a franchise completist.

Yeah, bingo. What he said.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2009 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   Hermit   (Member)

I would have to call myself a John Williams completist with just a few gaps from his 60s and 70s work. I even have most of his work with the Boston Pops, his work as film musical arranger (Fiddler on the Roof, Goodbye Mr. Chips, and Tom Sawyer) and most of his concert works. I even have his only stage musical, Thomas and the King. Admittedly, some works are better than others (the concert works tend to be a little too abstract for my tastes) but even his mediocre output is better than other composers' good stuff.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2009 - 12:07 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Admittedly, some works are better than others (the concert works tend to be a little too abstract for my tastes) but even his mediocre output is better than other composers' good stuff.

I'd allow that his mediocre works are better than what is done by mediocre composers. But film music has had many great masters, and Williams' middling output can't stand against another master's best.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2009 - 12:13 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Who do you think would win in a concert brawl?

Herrmann or Williams?
Hmmm?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I will soon be a member of the John Williams completist club!smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

I'm working on it too, at least in regards to his actual soundtracks. (Although, I don't have every tribute album, Boston Pops-related CD or re-recording album done by every conductor out there, with a some exceptions.) I just have to get GOODBYE MR. CHIPS, VALLEY OF THE DOLLS and the three AMAZING STORIES volumes. Then, I'll have all of his legally available soundtracks on CD. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I'm working on it too, at least in regards to his actual soundtracks. (Although, I don't have every tribute album, Boston Pops-related CD or re-recording album done by every conductor out there, with a some exceptions.) I just have to get GOODBYE MR. CHIPS, VALLEY OF THE DOLLS and the three AMAZING STORIES volumes. Then, I'll have all of his legally available soundtracks on CD. smile

Good luck my friend!smileI should clarify, I'm only counting his actual soundtracks. I may collect his concert albums at a later time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Thanks henry! smile Now that I know Amazon is a source for these OOP CDs, I'll have to save my pennies and get going.... cool

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I was just going through this thread which I started years ago, and I realized I miss Steve Johnson. Does anyone here know how he's doing?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

I was just going through this thread which I started years ago, and I realized I miss Steve Johnson. Does anyone here know how he's doing?

I thought he posted in some topic not-too-long-ago, so I assume he's about. But I could be wrong. I hope he's doing fine, too.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2017 - 3:26 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm a John Williams completist, and completed my collection years ago. Now I'm onto the really obscure and unreleased stuff, like the TV music.

 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2017 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

John Williams completists are some of the coolest folks around.

I haven't completed my collection yet but I think I have most of my favorites.

I am still truly grateful to the folks at La La Land Records for the Empire of the Sun Expanded set - it's probably one of my most treasured albums. Will eventually pick up the JP Collection someday.


I think also part of the joy of collecting are those times you come across a John Williams score you don't have in a store which you can pick up. My most recent one was a copy of The River last year at a used shop in Montreal.

 
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