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 Posted:   Mar 17, 2009 - 8:26 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Now we REALLY want to know what it was. big grin

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2009 - 8:26 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Which one? I gottsta know!

MV


I'll email you separately... it's kind of, uhm, embarassing.


Regardless of what it is I'll send you a free copy out of my own collection. smile

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2009 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

The only two composers I've intentionally set out to be a completist are Ottorino Respighi

Every recording of every work? wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2009 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   Joseph H.   (Member)

I guess I'm a Korngold completist, and a wannabe Herrmann completist (still no "Obsession" or other early 70's scores).

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2009 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I sold Williams' Presumed Innocent years ago. Just too brooding and soundscape-y for me. I also found The Accidental Tourist to be a monothematic snooze (great theme, but that's all there is...just the one theme, stated over and over and OVER), and sold the old Warner release for a decent chunk of change in the late 90's (although I may pick up the FSM reissue at some point and give it a second chance).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2009 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

I actually enjoy Presumed Innocent, it is kind of repetitive, but theme is beautiful. I wouldn't have bought Accidental Tourist if FSM didn't release it again.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2009 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   antipodean   (Member)

Every recording of every work? wink

To the best of my ability - as feeble as my wallet may be, and knowing it is as surely doomed to failure as, oh, trying to adapt an Alan Moore book into a movie.

(PS - We can only hope for "Lost Girls", but that's another topic.)

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2009 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

...but that's all there is...just the one theme, stated over and over and OVER...

Just to save you the time and money, let me warn you against purchasing any Italian scores from the 70s. Those guys could stretch a theme for a mile, with a thousand different variations in style, tempo, and instrumentation. As for me, I can't get enough of the stuff. big grin

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2009 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I actually enjoy Presumed Innocent, it is kind of repetitive, but theme is beautiful. I wouldn't have bought Accidental Tourist if FSM didn't release it again.

Accidental Tourist is one of the most blatant "variations on a theme" scores Williams ever wrote. It is lovely and I do like it. I don't play it or enjoy it as much as I do the Butch Bombast of his adventure scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2009 - 9:58 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Anybody here looking for Williams' Dracula? I have it up for trade/sale.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2009 - 5:29 AM   
 By:   TownerFan   (Member)

I am a Williams completist, even though I still have a few gaps to fill in my own collection.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2009 - 6:32 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I can't be a completist of any composer (I tried). Every one of them, no matter how awesome, will deliver a few albums I just don't enjoy. Then, much like TJ above, I wind up with a bunch of CDs I never listen to...

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2009 - 7:01 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I used to romanticize the idea of being a completist (not for Williams, though--Jerry Goldsmith) and came to the same realization that I would have wasted too much money on stuff I just wouldn't listen to at all. Besides, I have other interests that demand my time and/or money. So no, I'm not a completist for any composer or for any other of my hobbies that require "collecting."

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2009 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

...but that's all there is...just the one theme, stated over and over and OVER...

Just to save you the time and money, let me warn you against purchasing any Italian scores from the 70s. Those guys could stretch a theme for a mile, with a thousand different variations in style, tempo, and instrumentation. As for me, I can't get enough of the stuff. big grin


Ditto. More, more, more.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2009 - 9:34 PM   
 By:   antipodean   (Member)

Regardless of what it is I'll send you a free copy out of my own collection. smile

MV


I am, sir, very much obliged.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2009 - 10:18 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I like Stepmom as well, soft and gentle, very pretty.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2009 - 11:06 PM   
 By:   king mark   (Member)

Yes, I have all his official albums ever released (except a few pre-70's comedy scores)+all the unrealased stuff floating around ,rare concert performances...

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2009 - 12:54 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I've never tried to get a composer's whole career on disc. I can more readily imagine myself becoming a franchise completist. For instance, I bought every release of JW's SUPERMAN score from the double LP to the blue box, and I can't bring myself to part with any of the redundant things or the Varese rerecording. I don't play the old versions, it's pure collecting. I have everything released for LOST IN SPACE.

I also wound up with all six STAR WARS scores, although I have no passion for them.

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2009 - 2:39 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Out of interest, those of you who say you're completists (or near-so, or want-to-be's) of JW's works, does this cover his film (& TV works) only or his extensive career away from such recordings, too?

Reading the thread I see a reference or two to concert works but that leaves me wondering. Do such references mean JW's own concert works? What about his numerous recordings with the Boston Pops Orchestra?

Or his performances with other musicians, such as Henry Mancini (JW is the pianist on the Peter Gunn score album and I think he is included in the line-up (I no longer own the album) on HM's non-score jazz album "The Blues And The Beat").

Or what about his arranging and conducting duties for such artists as Frankie Laine (album: "Hell Bent For Leather")?

[Edit. having looked at the sleeve notes whilst listening to some of SW IV, disc 1]: Or what about his talent as arranger and musical director re: Fiddler On The Roof - would this feature in the collection of a completist?

Personally, I find his work overvalued. I am grateful to him (as much as it is due to him) for re-introducing the symphonic film-work to counter the ever-growing pop-song score in the mid-70's but struggle to place him in the top ten composers. In our household there is a standing joke that whenever I put a JW score on everyone can guess the composer by the second track ... it's just which score is it? That takes a lot longer ...

When I played Minority Report a while ago, a score my son likes (my daughter complains that the bass through the sub-woofer shakes the house!) he suddenly said: "Didn't it ever occur to him that this sounds just like Star Wars?"

I have the Star Wars' and Indiana Jones' collections - I sold the Superman 2CD set (I found it just too boring) - and 15 - 20 other scores of his. I'm always willing to try another JW's score but I'm not willing to pay much. Hence I picked up both The Patriot and Far And Away very cheaply a few years ago ... and sold them cheaply on eBay later.

My favourite JW's score (for some time) is Jane Eyre but I do really love his loving, longing theme "The Return Home" (not sure what track it is on the 2CD RCA set I have) from the first SW film.

Perhaps it's time for Star Wars IV ... I haven't played it for quite a while.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2009 - 6:12 AM   
 By:   antipodean   (Member)

I've never tried to get a composer's whole career on disc.

It also depends on how prolific the composer is. It'd be much easier to be, say, a Joel Goldsmith completist than Jerry Goldsmith. I do collect soundtracks by franchise as well - James Bond, Star Wars, Star Trek - the Star Trek CDs alone come to almost 40 discs in all.

I also have a number of early John Williams/Boston Pops film music and classical CDs from the mid-80s, some of which have been reissued/recycled either in part or in entirety under different titles, as labels sometimes like to do - but these I'm also holding onto purely out of sentimental value (plus a couple have been signed.)

 
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