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 Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

What is going ON at this board lately? Everyone seems a lot more crabby and complaint-prone than usual.

MV, if you click on a user's name above their post there is an option to see what threads they've participated in...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

In my opinion, the century-old motto "The customer is always right" (actually just an advertising slogan from the founder of Selfridge's in London) has created a justification for a sense of entitlement that does as much harm as good. Anybody who has ever worked retail (as I did, decades ago) quickly realizes that customers are frequently wrong, rude, and sometimes even bad for business. I remember customers demanding I leave my post and escort them to other departments (leaving mine empty), sell them mismatched pairs of items from separate boxes at a discount of their invention, and return items they'd used and damaged, all their right (they felt) simply because they were customers.

Just because you might occasionally throw $20 to La La Land (not out of charity, mind you, but because you want their excellent CDs) doesn't mean MV has to kowtow to you, and respond deferentially in the face of every complaint. (I mean this in the aggregate, separate from whatever merit or lack there is in this particular case.) We all see how rude and entitled so many can be on this board (not everybody, and again I'm talking about a cumulative rudeness more than anything in this thread).

So I bristle whenever somebody responds, aghast, that he is a customer! We're all customers. Get over yourself.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   HalloweenBorg   (Member)

What an incredibly snippy response from La La Land. You know I know there are a few trolls around here but almost everyone defends these labels (with the exception of Varese) to the death. Would La La Land really say that to a potential customer over the phone or in person? Wow.

Damn right I would. I'm tired of the Chicken Little The Sky Is Falling Bitch Brigade. Enough is ENOUGH!


MV


What an unprofessional response.


Given current events, I think he's earned the right to vent.


Vent, go for it. Lash out at someone for inquiring about 70s titles. Really, he earned that right?


Personal life aside, the original poster is one of the biggest trolls on this site. He is one of a 6 people on the La La Land Ignore list and has been on it for a few years. His original posting, which at the time I didn't realize he posted and was seen only because someone responded to it, was just plain and simple whining. It's totally unnecessary and factually inaccurate. In truth, I should have never responded to it because it was something I wasn't supposed to see. However, I did respond to it and stand 100% by my words. It's a new year and I feel that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! STOP THE WHINING AND AT LEAST HAVE FACTS TO BACK IT UP!

MV

PS Who are you? I have never seen you post on this site before. I looked you up and you rarely have posted in 7 years.



Putting a side out disagreement, my heart does go out to you and your family. I can’t imagine having something occur like that.

As to who I am, my name is Jonathan. I don’t post much except to enter contests and maybe post rarely when I’m excited. I don’t feel I know enough about music to intelligently converse about it though I know love it. As to whether this individual is a troll he or she may very well be, I don’t recognize the screenames enough to know. I based my response on the substance of the message not the messenger. And when I saw the response from La La Land I was quite shocked. I’ve known La La Land to be interactive, funny and interesting through the years with exceptional customer service. I know from experience. In 2010, I received a smashed Dutch and without question they sent a new one with apologies. Amazing. I’ll never forget it. I love that about them. I felt I needed to say something when I saw what happened. It’s really as simple as that.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 6:38 PM   
 By:   HalloweenBorg   (Member)

In my opinion, the century-old motto "The customer is always right" (actually just an advertising slogan from the founder of Selfridge's in London) has created a justification for a sense of entitlement that does as much harm as good. Anybody who has ever worked retail (as I did, decades ago) quickly realizes that customers are frequently wrong, rude, and sometimes even bad for business. I remember customers demanding I leave my post and escort them to other departments (leaving mine empty), sell them mismatched pairs of items from separate boxes at a discount of their invention, and return items they'd used and damaged, all their right (they felt) simply because they were customers.

Just because you might occasionally throw $20 to La La Land (not out of charity, mind you, but because you want their excellent CDs) doesn't mean MV has to kowtow to you, and respond deferentially in the face of every complaint. (I mean this in the aggregate, separate from whatever merit or lack there is in this particular case.) We all see how rude and entitled so many can be on this board (not everybody, and again I'm talking about a cumulative rudeness more than anything in this thread).

So I bristle whenever somebody responds, aghast, that he is a customer! We're all customers. Get over yourself.


I should clarify the quoting of statistics was a great way to respond. Just everything after I took issue with. I guess I just expected a more polished response and was surprised, that’s all. We live in an era where swearing and yelling and complaining is the way to go and I just don’t agree with it and I’m tired of seeing it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   HalloweenBorg   (Member)

In my opinion, the century-old motto "The customer is always right" (actually just an advertising slogan from the founder of Selfridge's in London) has created a justification for a sense of entitlement that does as much harm as good. Anybody who has ever worked retail (as I did, decades ago) quickly realizes that customers are frequently wrong, rude, and sometimes even bad for business. I remember customers demanding I leave my post and escort them to other departments (leaving mine empty), sell them mismatched pairs of items from separate boxes at a discount of their invention, and return items they'd used and damaged, all their right (they felt) simply because they were customers.

Just because you might occasionally throw $20 to La La Land (not out of charity, mind you, but because you want their excellent CDs) doesn't mean MV has to kowtow to you, and respond deferentially in the face of every complaint. (I mean this in the aggregate, separate from whatever merit or lack there is in this particular case.) We all see how rude and entitled so many can be on this board (not everybody, and again I'm talking about a cumulative rudeness more than anything in this thread).

So I bristle whenever somebody responds, aghast, that he is a customer! We're all customers. Get over yourself.


And I never said La La Land had to be deferential or even agree with the post. I don’t expect that.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 6:56 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

And I never said La La Land had to be deferential or even agree with the post. I don’t expect that.

Then I should be more careful to respond to what is said specifically, rather than a general trend I see around the board. My bad.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 9:29 PM   
 By:   Joe 1956   (Member)



I should clarify the quoting of statistics was a great way to respond. Just everything after I took issue with. I guess I just expected a more polished response and was surprised, that’s all. We live in an era where swearing and yelling and complaining is the way to go and I just don’t agree with it and I’m tired of seeing it.


We also live in a Nanny State of SJW's who flap their lips without understanding some of the history of a site.

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=123641&archive=0

Thank me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   HalloweenBorg   (Member)



I should clarify the quoting of statistics was a great way to respond. Just everything after I took issue with. I guess I just expected a more polished response and was surprised, that’s all. We live in an era where swearing and yelling and complaining is the way to go and I just don’t agree with it and I’m tired of seeing it.


We also live in a Nanny State of SJW's who flap their lips without understanding some of the history of a site.

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=123641&archive=0

Thank me.


I think I explained where I was coming from above. I based my response on the substance of the messages not who was necessarily stating the message. I’d hardly describe expecting a more professional response as living in a nanny state nor would I describe myself as a social justice warrior for wanting that but if throwing out names is satisfying for you by all means don’t let me stop you.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 2:50 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

What an incredibly snippy response from La La Land. You know I know there are a few trolls around here but almost everyone defends these labels (with the exception of Varese) to the death. Would La La Land really say that to a potential customer over the phone or in person? Wow.

Damn right I would. I'm tired of the Chicken Little The Sky Is Falling Bitch Brigade. Enough is ENOUGH!


MV


(Golden/Silver Age) music to my ears! Many a La-La Land release has landed on my shelves over the last several years, and I totally appreciate the care you devote to sound quality and presentation in each case. I am greatly looking forward to what you will be offering up in the new year -- hoping especially (to digress just a moment from the topic at hand) that we won't have to wait too long for that DEVIL IN A BLUE DRESS you mentioned a while back... But on with the great 60s and 70s stuff! And poobah to the naysayers!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 3:55 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

I think I've bought fewer new releases over the past year or two than at any other time. The focus of the major labels now seems to be on 80s-90s-00s.

My most recent purchases include:

La Dolce Vita - Nino Rota
The Hustler - Kenyon Hopkins
People Meet and Sweet Music Fills the Heart - K. Komeda
Two for the Road - Henry Mancini

I guess that most of the stuff I care about has either come out by now or probably never will.

I would love to see reissues of some titles I missed out on the first time.


That is just what YOU purchased. There have been plenty of 60's and 70's releases- I know I bought at least 20-30 last year-maybe more. Piccioni, Cipriani, Morricone, Lavagnino, Savina and on and on and 2 steps ahead.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 3:59 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

What an incredibly snippy response from La La Land. You know I know there are a few trolls around here but almost everyone defends these labels (with the exception of Varese) to the death. Would La La Land really say that to a potential customer over the phone or in person? Wow.

MV can say whatever he wants. He knows what he's done and what he's doing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 4:01 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

What an incredibly snippy response from La La Land. You know I know there are a few trolls around here but almost everyone defends these labels (with the exception of Varese) to the death. Would La La Land really say that to a potential customer over the phone or in person? Wow.

Damn right I would. I'm tired of the Chicken Little The Sky Is Falling Bitch Brigade. Enough is ENOUGH!


MV


What an unprofessional response.


Given current events, I think he's earned the right to vent.


Vent, go for it. Lash out at someone for inquiring about 70s titles. Really, he earned that right?


Yes he did. Why don't you get outta here.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 4:02 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I wonder how many less copies of this stuff sells compared to twenty years ago? That's my curse now, I seem to love music & movies that aren't all that popular, so I rely on a lot of specialist retailers who sells the stuff that the big boys can't be bothered with.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

What an incredibly snippy response from La La Land. You know I know there are a few trolls around here but almost everyone defends these labels (with the exception of Varese) to the death. Would La La Land really say that to a potential customer over the phone or in person? Wow.

Damn right I would. I'm tired of the Chicken Little The Sky Is Falling Bitch Brigade. Enough is ENOUGH!


MV


What an unprofessional response.


Given current events, I think he's earned the right to vent.


Vent, go for it. Lash out at someone for inquiring about 70s titles. Really, he earned that right?


Yes he did.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 4:27 AM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

I hope not. I am still waiting for better releases from big movies like: The Dollars Trilogy, Godfather, Rocky, Dr. Zhivago and Planet of the Apes just to name a few.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

He is one of a 6 people on the La La Land Ignore list


Oh, go on, do tell, who are the other five?

Hello? Hello?

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 5:29 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

He is one of a 6 people on the La La Land Ignore list


Oh, go on, do tell, who are the other five?

Hello? Hello?


I guess I'm one. He was annoyed at me banging on about one his expanded releases some time agorazz

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Just because you might occasionally throw $20 to La La Land (not out of charity, mind you, but because you want their excellent CDs) doesn't mean MV has to kowtow to you, and respond deferentially in the face of every complaint. (I mean this in the aggregate, separate from whatever merit or lack there is in this particular case.)

I know that you are speaking in the aggregate and not specifically to any one post, but my initial comment was intended as an observation and not a "complaint." I simply believe that most of the prime stuff has come out by now or is likely not to happen. Of course, this is reflective of my taste in music, and that fact that I may already have many of the recent-ish titles on LP or previous CD releases. But in thinking about many of the iconic films and scores from those decades, it seems that most have either been released, or would have been by now.

When I am connected to my external drive this weekend, I will do some comparisons of titles purchased from year to year just to be sure I'm not misremembering.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

That is just what YOU purchased. There have been plenty of 60's and 70's releases- I know I bought at least 20-30 last year-maybe more. Piccioni, Cipriani, Morricone, Lavagnino, Savina and on and on and 2 steps ahead.

My last Cipriani was "Twitch of the Death Nerve," and my last Morricone was "Escalation." I think these were 2016 releases. I will confirm when I purchased them when I am hooked up to my external drive.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   TxIrish   (Member)

I think we're getting to the end of all soundtrack releases, period, regardless of decade.

And since the modern trend is to have the music not draw attention to itself / be wall paper, I don't think we're going to ever have any new soundtracks, ever, starting immediately.

In fact, Hollywood will probably just use stock random generic ambient background noise muzak for all films from now on, starting immediately. Someone will release a *complete* one disc edition of this generic muzak, and that will be the last soundtrack release. Ever.

 
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