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 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Due Not to Public Demand but MEMBER['s) Gracious Request Department:



Far from wanting to be The Mo'om Pitcher Thread monopolizer, everyone realizes we've no patent on this process, so it'd be Reel nifty if others gave their own appreciative spin on your favorite flicks (this caveat offered so as to make it clearly crystal this ain't gonna become a habit when we've still yet to view the subject under scope). wink



[ Still, that picking of nits aside ] - hailing frequencies now open for those who HAVE already seen, admire
und positively prefer it to the remake's retrospective wayyyy down below ...

smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

One of the most chilling and disturbing movies ever made. The notion of mind control was never more effectively conveyed on film (Triumph of the Will notwithstanding). Laurence Harvey's Raymond Shaw is one of the most pathetic and tragic characters.

And Angela Lansbury should have won the Academy Award.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

To Neotrinity:

Thank you very much for your initiative.

It's a film I watched in a theater in 1987 during an official re-release in a cine-club.
I bought the DVD—and listen to John Frankenheimer's commentary—and the soundtrack CD—I was never satisfied by the presentation by Premier Recording because it was fashioned like a big band album and not like a traditional orchestral soundtrack but the rare tracks recapture the bizarre harpsichord mood of the "dual" brainwashing scenes. One track from "The Manchurian Candidate" is recycled in "Seven Days In may" for the El Paso Cafe scene.

"The Manchurian Candidate" will influence Pakula's "The Parallax View", especially the final sniper scene.


 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

"The Manchurian Candidate" is the first part of a paranoiac trilogy, in other words, a fear film.
The film can first be appreciated as an oddball and intricate thriller.
Then the film also provide tormented character's study and layers of political subtext.
From a strict artistical or formal standpoint, the cinematography—thanks to DP Lionel Lindon—and the montage—thanks to Ferris Webster and writer George Axelrod—are a treat for art lovers.

The cast of characters is also fabulous because you recognize many popular faces of the era.

The Rebel:
Frank Sinatra ..... Captain Bennet Marco

The Pawn:
Laurence Harvey ..... Sergent Raymond Shaw

The American Bloc:
Janet Leigh ..... Eugenie ("Rosie") Rose
James Gregory ..... Senator John Yerkes Iselin
James Edwards ..... Corporal Alvin Melvin
John McGiver ..... Senator Thomas Jordan
Leslie Parrish ..... Jocelyn ("Jocie") Jordan
Whit Bissell ..... The Medical Officer
Douglas Henderson ..... The Colonel

The Soviet Bloc:
Angela Lansbury ..... Eleanor Iselin
Henry Silva ..... Chunjin, the infiltrated butler of Captain Bennet Marco
Khigh Dhiegh ..... Soviet Psychologist Dr. Yen Lo
Albert Paulsen ..... Zilkov
Reggie Nalder ..... Gomel
Nick Bolin ..... Berezovo, the Soviet Officer

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   random guy   (Member)

saw it on tcm about 3 years ago. deserves all the praise it gets. one thing that always stuck in my mind was the horticulture scene. completely sold the movie for me

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

The political subtext is mad: the wife of a conservative Senator is a spy for the Soviet bloc.
The historical context is interesting: the aftermaths of the Korean War.

PS: CANDIDATE has its official inner foe through Senator Iselin and SEVEN DAYS will provide General Scott and Senator Prentice. The first two parano thriller also give us a rebel: Captain Marco, here, and Colonel Jiggs, there. Frankenheimer leads his films with a template of characters.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Forgive my impertinence:

I also love how the future Hawaii Five-O arch nemesis, Wo Fat, (Khigh Dhiegh), was working his insidious charms in the Manchurian Candidate's brainwashing scenes. It's easy to imagine that chapter being a part of his back story, especially since Wo Fat attempted to brainwash Steve McGarrett in the Five-O pilot movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

_______
"His brain has not only been washed, as they say... It has been dry cleaned."
—Dr. Yen Lo.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

The weak link in the film--John McGiver. He is the quintessential windbag everywhere else he is (see his TZ episode) that the idea of him as the essence of nobility remains the most unitentionally funny part of the movie.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

Saw it during its original release in theaters. Loved it, then. Love it, now! What sophisticated fare we were treated to as children. Of course, I saw it on a double bill with Elvis in GIRLS! GIRLS! GIRLS!, so it wasn't all that sophisticated.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2013 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

What are your favourite scenes from "The Manchurian Candidate"?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2013 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Dear Eric --

The weak link in your critical assessment of MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE: your antipathy to John McGiver, whom I always enjoyed on screen and admired as an eccentric real-life character.

To each his own, of course...

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2013 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

eek And might we royally implore those sharing their favorite moments and scenes be respectfully cognizant of not SPOILing the acutely-anticipated delight of Discovery for those of us cultural barbarians yet to be exposed to the topic under scope?

Thankee veddy muchly, rily ... wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2013 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)



"The Manchurian Candidate" will influence Pakula's "The Parallax View", especially the final sniper scene.


In "The Parallax View", the equivalent of character Captain Marco is reporter Joe Frady.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2013 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

What are your favourite scenes from "The Manchurian Candidate"?


1. Captain Marco's dual nightmare depicting the brainwashing of his patrol from old lady horticulture conferences in the lobby of a small hotel to the crude concrete bunker decorated with communist pictures run by psychologist Yen-Lo that ends up with the strangling of Ed Mavole
2. Corporal Melvin's dual nightmare depicting the brainwashing of his patrol that ends up with the shooting of Bobby Lembeck
3. Dr. Yen-Lo's meeting with Sgt. Raymond Shaw in a flat decorated as a hospital room
4. Captain Marco's troubled meeting with Eugene Rose on the train
5. Captain Marco's fight against butler Chinjun at Shaw's flat
6. Raymond Shaw conditioned to jump into a lake because of a game of solitaire
7. Raymond Shaw's killing his stepfather Senator Jordan and his wife Jocelyn
8. Captain Marco interrogates Raymond Shaw with a game of solitaire
9. Raymond Shaw's gunning down Senator Iselin and his own mother

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2013 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Dear Eric --

The weak link in your critical assessment of MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE: your antipathy to John McGiver, whom I always enjoyed on screen and admired as an eccentric real-life character.
To each his own, of course...
smile


LOL. It's not antipathy to McGiver per se, but antipathy to him in this role. He was the *best* at playing comical windbags in that era, so much so that it's impossible for me to see him in anything and not see someone who is Roswell G. Flemington at heart.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2013 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

I loved the spray of blood that hits the back wall during the nightmare sequence, as well as all the different bullet hits- through the milk carton, side of the head and right above the eyes. Stunning special effects for their time, I don't think I saw another bullet hit again until The Silencers with that gun that fired backwards. And then not again until Bonnie and Clyde.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2013 - 11:03 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

The weak link in the film--John McGiver. He is the quintessential windbag everywhere else he is (see his TZ episode) that the idea of him as the essence of nobility remains the most unitentionally funny part of the movie.

He was absolutely brilliant in MIDNIGHT COWBOY as Razzo's "friend" O'Daniel. "I'm gonna use ya, Joe!" Actually I had no trouble with McGiver as the senator in MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE. Or anything else in the film, actually. Let me add that Richard Condon's novel of the same name (finally back in print due to the remake of the film) is superb, and well worth reading even if you've seen the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2013 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Which begs the brilliantly-belated Kosmic Kuestion, Watcher-San:
what'ja think of the remake? Down below near the bottom of This
Syde's page, we await thy pronouncements with acute anticipation ... wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2013 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   fisch   (Member)

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