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 Posted:   Mar 5, 2013 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Coming soon... QUARTET N.99!

"HAREM" Music Composed by PHILIPPE SARDE. World premiere release of the elegant, romantic and eclectic score composed by the French genius for the Arthur Joffé film, starring Natassja Kinski and Ben Kingsley. Performed by The London Symphony Orchestra and The Ambrosian Singers Choir. Includes an original song composed by Philippe Sarde and performed by Jimmy Sommerville.


 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2013 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Well, almost the complete HAREM score (without the song) is already available on the Sarde CD COLETTE, but I think that it was a new recording where just the same tracks composed for HAREM were re-used.
Can José Benitez say something more about the differences between the original recording and the one which was used for COLETTE in 2003?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2013 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   odelayy   (Member)

At last!!!!!!!!!!! I've been waiting for this one for years (actually since... the 80s even if "Colette" reused some of the music, it did not reprise all the music and I think it was a different recording)

The music is as beautiful as the cover.

Here's the wonderful Jimmy Sommerville'song "Stranger" which was released as Bside in a CD single in the early 90s and was unsued in the film.
The music of the song is the main title composed by Sarde.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2013 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

By the way, in the end title of the HAREM movie the Orchestre de Paris is credited and not the LSO. Why this?
And at least in the German version of the film the song "Hey Stranger" is heard during those end titles.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2013 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   odelayy   (Member)


And at least in the German version of the film the song "Hey Stranger" is heard during those end titles.






I saw the film a couple of times in French and English, and unlike the German version I'm almost certain there was no song at the end. But, well, I could be wrong... although it would really suprise me. I will check on the DVD when I have access to it next week (there is only the English and French soundtrack on it).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2013 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

It's a long time that I have seen the film, but I made some notes and comparisons in early 2004 - I still have those notes here before me - - when I got the COLETTE CD and just at that time I made a comparison between all the tracks on the COLETTE CD and those which crop up in the German dubbed film version of HAREM. And I am sure that I heard that song in the end title, not in the main title. Of course I had the song on a CDR even a long time before 2004 so I really knew it quite well before I saw the movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2013 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I saw the film a couple of times in French and English, and unlike the German version I'm almost certain there was no song at the end. But, well, I could be wrong... although it would really suprise me. I will check on the DVD when I have access to it next week (there is only the English and French soundtrack on it).

Odelayy, here you can view the Main Title of the film and you will now have the confirmation that not the song "Stranger" is used there, but that the music - which starts at about 1:40 minutes of the clip - begins with track 6 of the COLETTE CD. Maybe the chorus at the beginning of that track has deceived you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XasOKgcTl-I

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2013 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

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 Posted:   Mar 6, 2013 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Yeah, I thought so.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2013 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

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 Posted:   Mar 13, 2013 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   odelayy   (Member)

I've just checked the end title on the DVD (on the english original language and the French dubbed one) and I can confirm that there's no song on it in both versions.


I think Jimmy Summerville was extremely popular in Germany at the time (I know that Bronsky Beat and the Communards were), even more than in France, so it can be the reason why there is this difference between the German and the French/English Version (actually Harem is a French film shot in English produced by one of the most important producers in France Alain Sarde, the brother of... you know who!)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2013 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Thanks for the interesting info, Odelayy.
So where is the song in the English and the French version? Does it really appear at the beginning of the film? And if yes, has the music which appears at about 1:40 in the clip above on Youtube been replaced with the song?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2013 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   odelayy   (Member)

actually, there is no song at all in the film in both versions, not in the end, nor the beggining or the middle. I think it was a German treat...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2013 - 5:50 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

actually, there is no song at all in the film in both versions, not in the end, nor the beggining or the middle. I think it was a German treat...

This is really strange.
So which music is heard during the end title of the DVD versions? Just an instrumental version of the main theme or something completely different?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2013 - 2:15 AM   
 By:   odelayy   (Member)

It's a gentle instrumental version of the main title with a piano and an orchestra during the first part (the counter melody is played by a few strings and their sound is mixed to the fore) and a full and lush orchestra during the second part.

By the way, in the booklet of Colette, it is written that the music was recorded and mixed in London on Mai and June 2003 which shows that Colette is not the OST of Harem and is therefore a new recording.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2013 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Finally available to order!
http://www.quartetrecords.com/harem.html

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2013 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   odelayy   (Member)

Ordered!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2024 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I don't know nuttin' 'bout all these nuts and bolts things that Stefan and others talk about, nor do they interest me much (different versions, number and figures, durations and variations). All I know is that this is a damn fine score. I'm a sucker for choral elements in everything, and Sarde weaves them beautifully with middle eastern flavours, some oddball effects and a pervasive romanticism. Eclectic, but rewarding.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2024 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I fully agree with you, Thor, that this is a fascinating romantic and rapturous score which engulfs the listener with its dreamlike atmosphere. Simply beautiful and enchanting music. Sarde was at the zenith of his career when he composed that wonderful score which I also like very much.
I just want to let you know that if you now already have the HAREM CD - or at least the digital version - you really don´t need Sarde´s COLETTE CD from 2004 anymore as it is not only the same music, but also the same recording - even though the booklet of COLETTE states the contrary by telling you that all the music had been newly recorded for the 2004 French TV film.
I had closely compared everything track by track in 2013 when the HAREM CD got released and was very surprised myself: Actually, there is no difference between the tracks which are on both CDs and you even hear exactly the same rustlings of the instruments and some background noise during a few tracks. It´s really a quite funny experience to make that comparison!
However, the sound quality on the Quartet CD has beeen somewhat improved and the mixing is a bit different so that the strings come more to the fore and sound a bit more lush than on the COLETTE CD.
Also, you get about 9 minutes more music compared with what is on the COLETTE CD: The song "Hey Stranger", track 8 "Hamman" and track 11 "The Desert" - these are the three tracks which you won´t find on the COLETTE CD. And the first 30 seconds of track 2 "New York" on HAREM with the street noise and the muezzin singing had also been removed for the COLETTE CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2024 - 12:23 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thanks for the warning, Stefan. I already have one COLETTE in my collection, the 2013 Holocaust film with (arguably) Atli Örvarsson's greatest score, so that will suffice anyway.

 
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