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 Posted:   May 7, 2012 - 7:31 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

This film had a limited theatrical run in America, barely ever on TV, free or cable, limited if no video or DVD release?, good drama, fine musical score, any comments?

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2012 - 11:06 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

The 105-minute 1967 Danish-Swedish-Icelandic co-production "Den røde kappe" was first released in the U.S. in May 1968 by Steve Prentoulis Films in a 92-minute subtitled version under the title HAGBARD AND SIGNE. This drama of medieval Scandinavia was filmed in Iceland. It was directed by Gabriel Axel and scored by Per Norgaard, who 20 years later teamed for a big hit in the U.S.--1987's BABETTE'S FEAST. In those pre-MPAA days, HAGBARD AND SIGNE was declared morally offensive by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops because of "excessive nudity and graphic depictions of brutality."

"Den røde kappe" was later acquired by a distributor called Cinevision, who in 1972 submitted it to the MPAA, where it was was rated [R], and re-released it as THE RED MANTLE. The new version was dubbed into English, and it had a song added to the score--"A Moment of Your Love" (music by Marc Fredericks, lyrics by Sammy Cahn, sung by Judy Scott).

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

To bob-I should have earlier but i always wanted to thank you as so many others would or do for all the great imformative info you give on films and the like, i started this string of threads knowing people like you can be so helpful with info and with these threads, people might find these obscure films they been looking for, i always look forward to your comments.Many of the films i list come not just from me but people i know who are wondering where are these films, i keep telling them there are just so many films that have been made, cable, free TV no way can cover them all.Alot of people just don't deal with DVD's or video's, even these format's as we know, don't cover every feature lenght film made.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

I saw this when it was first released in the U.S., when producers hoped it would follow in the successful wake of Zeffirelli's ROMEO AND JULIET, in that it also had a similar plot, with also a tragic end. (They probably re-titled it with the names of its protagonists, also in an effort to repeat the success of the Zeffirelli....)

Unfortunately, it found but few audiences, and seemed more ponderous than anything else, though I have noticed that it has turned up on cable every now and then.

I don't remember the score; was it any good?

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

I recall the original, as being stark and bare as the Icelandic landscape -- with virtually no music at all. A couple of lines were sung at the very end.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I recall the original, as being stark and bare as the Icelandic landscape -- with virtually no music at all. A couple of lines were sung at the very end.


Upon further research, it appears that Cinevision had the entire film rescored prior to its being re-released in 1972 as THE RED MANTLE. In fact, RCA issued an LP of the new score by Marc Fredericks.

Fredericks was a composer, songwriter, author, arranger and pianist, educated at the University of Pennsylvania (Bachelor of Arts degree) and Rutgers University (Master of Arts degree). He wrote, conducted, arranged and was pianist for several record companies, and also ran his own publishing firm. His popular-song compositions include "Blue Jean Rhapsody", "Isle of Romance", "Bashful Debutante", "Eclipse", "Mirage in the Night", "The Workshop" and "Tina's Theme".

Plenty of copies of the LP (RCA Victor LSP 4815; 40 minutes) are available online for under $20.



 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 7:33 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

To John B Archibald-where in America has this turned up on cable, what nationwide cable service?, if in the past 30 years if i saw this listed on any of the big cable movie stations my eyes would have taken great notice.it might have however pop up on a indie station in Los Angelas, in the late 70's or so?

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 7:34 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

To John B Archibald-where in America has this turned up on cable, what nationwide cable service?, if in the past 30 years if i saw this listed on any of the big cable movie stations my eyes would have taken great notice.it might have however pop up on a indie station in Los Angelas, in the late 70's or so?

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 7:36 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I had a few copies of that LP years ago and sold them at a reasonable price, they didn't go for much, nice music.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2012 - 10:07 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

To John B Archibald-where in America has this turned up on cable, what nationwide cable service?, if in the past 30 years if i saw this listed on any of the big cable movie stations my eyes would have taken great notice.it might have however pop up on a indie station in Los Angelas, in the late 70's or so?


I seem to have run across it on either the IFC or Sundance channels. They sometimes present obscure foreign films. Every now and then they'll show a film that fell below the radar, even on cable, and I'll see enough of it to track it down on DVD, such as FLAME AND CITRON or a charming British film based on a tale by Lord Dunsany, with Peter O'Toole and Sam Neill, whose title escapes me at present, but turned out to be charming.

(Of course, I could be wrong... There is precedent. But I do seem to remember that red cloak of the stalwart, though wooden actor, who played Hagbard...)

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2022 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   moonstar.studios   (Member)

Hi everyone,

I just thought you may be interested to know that Sony Legacy has announced today that Marc Fredericks' score for The Red Mantle has been released for download from most digital music stores and for streaming on most platforms.

Enjoy!

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2022 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

I would imagine that a distributor-imposed score for a stark and nearly silent film would be disastrous. But who knows? There are many possible approaches to any story.

 
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