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 Posted:   Mar 11, 2012 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I wasn't previously familiar with Kenneth V. Jones' work, but I've now enjoyed his music for the Corman/Vincent Price movie Tomb of Ligeia. A look at imdb shows he also worked on such movies as "There Was a Crooked Man","Whoever Slew Auntie Roo","The Bandit of Zhobe", "Fire Down Below" and TV series like Robert Shaw's "The Buccaneers".
Apparently he is now 88. Does anyone here have knowledge of the composer and his work?
The excellent Ligeia Main Title music is here, starting at around the 3-minute mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI2SdRMioHQ&feature=related

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2012 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I too have enjoyed his music over the years, really like Tomb of Ligeia, Whoever slew auntie roo-72, Indiscreet-58-Oscar wilde-60-remember his lively score for Horror hotel-60- and others, looking for the film DR Crippen-64- which he scored. Very obscure these days.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2012 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

THE TOMB OF LIGEIA is my favorite Roger Corman film based upon Poe.
It was with this film, which I first saw around 1989 on VHS, that I was introduced to Kenneth V. Jones.
To tell the truth, however, the music Jones provided for TOMB never quite grabbed me as I watched this picture multiple times.
It was by exploring other more "obscure" titles that I got more impressed with Kenneth V. Jones, such as the following:

TOWER OF EVIL (1972)



This flick is a sort of missing link between the early '70s British chillers by Tigon or Herman Cohen, and the late '70s slasher films & Pete Walker & Norman J. Warren.
The score's quite modern.
One may very well ask, after hearing the score to this, if this was indeed the same Kenneth Jones who scored TOMB OF LIGEIA?

There should be no doubt, though, that it's the same Kenneth Jones of TOMB who wrote the music for THE PROJECTED MAN a few years later:



Unless this is on YouTube, this item has only been on Region 2 DVD from the U.K.

Most recently, I got a copy of the DVD-R on PYSCHE 59 (1964), which Kenneth Jones did the same year as TOMB:



All I can say about this is - WOW!
Jones' PSYCHE 59 is heads and shoulders above all other K.V. Jones that I've heard thus far.
It's almost wall-to-wall like a Tiomkin, but it sounds nothing at all like a Golden Age score.
The score for PSYCHE 59 is a blend of both Debussian impressionism along with Schoenbergian expressionism, with some jazzy big-band sounds added into the stewpot to depict the implied sadomasochistic affair between Curt Jurgens and lingerie-clad Samantha Eggar.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2012 - 10:41 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Am I right in saying none of this has been released?
If they haven't done so already, perhaps one of our enterprising labels should make contact with Mr. Jones while he is still with us (hopefully at 88 he is still going strong) to see if he can provide any advice/insights about putting together a belated representation of his work on CD.
Maybe one of those Chandos re-recorded collections by relatively obscure British composers would be in order in the future.
I could imagine a couple of these, say Tomb of Ligeia/Psyche 59, making a nice Kritzerland title.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2012 - 10:43 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

i too have enjoyed his music over the years really like Tomb of Ligeia, Whoever slew auntie roo-72, Indiscreet-58-Oscar wilde-60-remember his lively score for Horror hotel-60- and others, looking for the film DR Crippen-64- which he scored, very obscure these days.

Hi Dan!

The Kenneth V. Jones of Oscar Wilde is a different person than the Ken Jones, who co-composed scores for INDISCREET and CITY OF THE DEAD.

This other Ken Jones (Kenneth Evans Jones - who has been deceased since 1988) was the one who scored the 1958 TOM THUMB and a 1960 Peter Sellers vehicle TWO WAY STRETCH, as well as the DR. CRIPPEN you mention (which, by the way, is on region 2 DVD from the U.K.).

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2012 - 10:57 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Am I right in saying none of this has been released?
If they haven't done so already, perhaps one of our enterprising labels should make contact with Mr. Jones while he is still with us (hopefully at 88 he is still going strong) to see if he can provide any advice/insights about putting together a belated representation of his work on CD.
Maybe one of those Chandos re-recorded collections by relatively obscure British composers would be in order in the future.
I could imagine a couple of these, say Tomb of Ligeia/Psyche 59, making a nice Kritzerland title.


True.
There hasn't been any soundtrack of a Kenneth V. Jones score besides a theme here or there on an occassional compilation LP or EP.

A Chandos re-recording seems the most likely way for a retrosepctive - who knows what happened to all those original British sound recordings?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2012 - 11:01 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

who knows what happened to all those original British sound recordings?

Maybe Mr. Jones himself has some stashed way in his attic.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2012 - 11:46 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

To Tone row- thanks for that info, wow, the film composer's guide put out in 1990 really screwed up on that they listed one Kenneth V Jones for all of those films, i won't mention the man who put out that book in 90 for tactful reasons, although i am sure some of the people on this board has that book too.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2012 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

I've always liked Kenneth V. Jones' score for the absolutely excellent movie TOMB OF LIGEIA - there are quite a few bucolic sequences in an otherwise largely dissonant score (some of it sounds like "Han Solo and the Princess"!)... but I'm not sure if there's enough interesting material to make a complete soundtrack. Unfortunately, the estimable Mr AngloAmerican on his superb YouTube channel only managed to cull the Main and End Titles from TOMB, but the other stuff is intriguing too.

You'll hear THE BRAIN until about the 2:20 mark. A downtrodden jazzy piece. As soon as I heard that I thought "I've got that on cassette from 1973 telly". I think it might be actually another title for what I saw as VENGEANCE.

THE PROJECTED MAN is next, until about 7:10. This is good powerful stuff. I remember the film as being a bit rubbish, but it's a fine dissonant score.

TOMB OF LIGEIA finishes things off for the last three minutes or so.

So here's what Mr AngloAmerican has done with Mr Jones' scores - the scores don't match the films (you'll be watching much of TOMB OF LIGEIA with the score from THE PROJECTED MAN playing), but as I have said to the point of annoyance on the Brit Horror thread, I really like his creative use of YouTube - little minimovies in themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r4gF_4Tg7c

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2012 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   James Corry   (Member)



Ken Jones also wrote a terrific jazz-tinged score for the 1960 adventure-fantasy "Tarzan The Magnificent", the follow-up to "Tarzan's Greatest Adventure" (1959) which was scored by Douglas Gamley (and which are, IMHO the two best "Tarzan" films ever made). And, if I'm not mistaken, both of these talented gentlemen scored George Pal's children's fantasy "Tom Thumb" in 1958......

J.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2012 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

James, don't get your Kens in a twist! One is one and the other is the other one! See ToneRow's post above.

Just thinking about what a great movie TOMB OF LIGEIA is. I've seen it about ten times and it comes up with something new on each viewing. Such a rich, multi-layered screenplay. Just wonderful. I can't make up my mind if I prefer this to MASQUE OF THE RED DEATH - both are superb. As regards the score, well I said earlier that I'm not sure if a full release would be a compelling listen from beginning to end (that's pretty hard to achieve, film music being film music), but I think that if Quartet (for example, after their sterling work on David Lee's MASQUE score) wants to go ahead and release it, then it would be something I would simply "have to have" (in an unhealthy, compulsive-buying way).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2012 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   James Corry   (Member)

Ah-Ha! Thank-you ToneRow and Graham! I stand corrected!

Interesting that two composers have (basically) the same name. Kind of like the "Bernard Herrmann" (same spelling and everything) who used to conduct a Northern England dance-band orchestra and the "real" Bernard Herrmann who was always getting the other guy's mail, etc. and getting mistaken for him........

In any case I did love "Ken Jones" scores for "Tom Thumb" and "Tarzan The Magnificent"!!

J.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2012 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Right James! I remember having to sit through "The Good Old Days" with my grandparents, and when "Maestro Bernard Herrmann" appeared, giving them a potted history of his importance in the world of film music - all done with the snotty and snooty attitute of the 14-year-old ponce I once was (I'm now older at least).

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2013 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Saw this again on TCM today. So here's another reminder that we could do with a CD of Mr. Jones' fine music.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2019 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Livio Merino   (Member)

Apologies (again) for bumping an old topic. But I just watched this movie for the first time on Shout's Vincent Price Collection II on Blu-ray. I really enjoyed Kenneth Jones' score here.. would love to see a release someday!

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2019 - 1:44 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Apologies (again) for bumping an old topic. But I just watched this movie for the first time on Shout's Vincent Price Collection II on Blu-ray. I really enjoyed Kenneth Jones' score here.. would love to see a release someday!

Thanks for bumping it, Livio! I recently rewatched TOMB OF LIGEIA for the umpteenth time, and apart from being reminded how brilliant the film is, its familiarity also made the score seem more outstanding than ever.

I wonder where Roger Corman's mortal fear of the word "the" originated - probably in a Poe-esque fever. (FALL OF THE) HOUSE OF USHER, PIT AND THE PENDULUM, PREMATURE BURIAL, MASQUE OF THE RED DEATH, TOMB OF LIGEIA... No "The".

Unless the current online info hasn't been updated, it would appear that the composer is still with us. In fact he had his 95th birthday exactly a week ago. Another one for Thor's list.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2019 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   MusicUnite   (Member)


So here's what Mr AngloAmerican has done with Mr Jones' scores - the scores don't match the films (you'll be watching much of TOMB OF LIGEIA with the score from THE PROJECTED MAN playing), but as I have said to the point of annoyance on the Brit Horror thread, I really like his creative use of YouTube - little minimovies in themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r4gF_4Tg7c



Hi Graham. I must have somehow missed this thread way back in 2012. The YT link is now dead and I am assuming 'Mr AngloAmerican' must be as well as I could not find anything close to that username. I tried searching for your Brit Horror thread but could not locate it either. Can you recall the exact name of the thread?

Thank you,
Jay

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2019 - 2:04 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)


So here's what Mr AngloAmerican has done with Mr Jones' scores - the scores don't match the films (you'll be watching much of TOMB OF LIGEIA with the score from THE PROJECTED MAN playing), but as I have said to the point of annoyance on the Brit Horror thread, I really like his creative use of YouTube - little minimovies in themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r4gF_4Tg7c



Hi Graham. I must have somehow missed this thread way back in 2012. The YT link is now dead and I am assuming 'Mr AngloAmerican' must be as well as I could not find anything close to that username. I tried searching for your Brit Horror thread but could not locate it either. Can you recall the exact name of the thread?

Thank you,
Jay


Jay - No idea what that Brit Horror thread could have been... I do recall that there's still a lot of Kenneth V Jones music on YouTube, some of it uploaded by James Stuart (didn't you link to his Douglas Gamley uploads once?), and Fish Man. I just typed in "Kenneth V Jones" and all that stuff came up. I think some of it's mixed up with "Ken Jones", as seems habitual. The lengthiest suite I could find from TOMB OF LIGEIA is 20 minutes, but is curiously missing the Main Titles.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2019 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Paul Ettinger   (Member)

Can anyone identify which Ken Jones contributed to Edwin Astley's THE SAINT on the Razor and Tie label (RE 2156-2) ?
There are 3 tracks wholly attributed to Jones: Ying-Ting-Piddle-Ay-Kilt, Slinky, and Swinging Simon. And a couple of tracks credited to both Astley and Jones. Do you think it's the Ken V; or the Ken E. Jones?

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2019 - 8:17 PM   
 By:   MusicUnite   (Member)

Jay - No idea what that Brit Horror thread could have been... I do recall that there's still a lot of Kenneth V Jones music on YouTube, some of it uploaded by James Stuart (didn't you link to his Douglas Gamley uploads once?), and Fish Man. I just typed in "Kenneth V Jones" and all that stuff came up. I think some of it's mixed up with "Ken Jones", as seems habitual. The lengthiest suite I could find from TOMB OF LIGEIA is 20 minutes, but is curiously missing the Main Titles.

Graham, thanks for replying. The James Stuart vids all seem to have the correct attributions. I am not sure about some of the others.

Jay

 
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