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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: The Belle of New York
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Katie @ SAE   (Member)

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   peter77   (Member)

Wow!! Fantastic news.

Thanks Lukas!

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

When I saw this featured on the SAE site, I coud not believe it.

An under rated musical, I hope this leads to more.

Question- are any of the tracks that early multitrack stereo?

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Gotta give some love to Joe, GORGEOUS cover, very very well done my friend.

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I think this is sensational. One of my favorite scores from that period.

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)


This is a fabulous surprise for those of us who not only love the orchestral scores we've always gotten from FSM, but the musicals we've gotten from Turner/Rhino over the years past.

The BELLE download just didn't quite cut it for me.....and now this beautiful package is available.

Thanks, Lukas.

While I fully understand that this kind of musical release will be met with difficulties from some posters, it at least presents a new market for Lukas as a seller, and for some of us as purchasers. Hopefully, there will be more to come. The MGM '50s era alone (not to mention the Warner Bros. '50s) has some fine musical scores still waiting in the vaults.

I also hope Lukas and SAE will understand that there is an entirely additional marketplace out there for this kind of musical material. Max Preeo, over at CASTRECL, will certainly play it up for his Broadway musicals contingency of collectors.

Thanks again for this wonderful, wonderful surprise, Lukas!

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

It isn't one for me, but heck, if it brings in more buyers for FSM, I say open the gates and release more musicals. It really is a natural branching out. No doubt many will enjoy this one. Kudos to Lukas and team

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

Thank you for this!!!

Now I can throw out those terrible "downloads"!

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

Just a note to those posters who complain about wanting some score from the '90s and why hasn't it been released yet---I've been waiting for this kind of release for THE BELLE OF NEW YORK since 1952---59 years until now!

I am elated to have this, as is obvious, but I'm also saddened by the fact that this kind of material has also been sitting in the vaults and mouldering away for 59 years while so many who wanted it but are now gone, could have had 50 years to appreciate it.

While I fully understand this will be an infrequent kind of release for Lukas, at least it's a wonderful start.....

......and then on to Friml-Stothart's ROSE MARIE with Howard Keel and Ann Blyth in stereo, a proper and complete HIGH SOCIETY, a two-disc set of Sigmund Romberg's DEEP IN MY HEART with an all-star MGM cast in stereo, Cole Porter's LES GIRLS with Gene Kelly and Mitzi Gaynor in stereo, JUPITER'S DARLING with Howard Keel, Esther Williams/Jo Ann Greer, and George Sanders in stereo, DANGEROUS WHEN WET with Esther Williams and Fernando Lamas, RICH, YOUNG AND PRETTY with Jane Powell, Vic Damone, and Fernando Lamas, PAGAN LOVE SONG with Esther Williams/Betty Wand and Howard Keel, THE MERRY WIDOW with Fernando Lamas and Lana Turner/Trudy Erwin, THE STUDENT PRINCE with Mario Lanza and Ann Blyth in stereo (if the licensing can be arranged), and many more.....

.....including several more complete versions of older Turner/Rhino things like THE BARKLEYS OF BROADWAY, YOLANDA AND THE THIEF, THE ZIEGFELD FOLLIES, TEXAS CARNIVAL.....

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   siriami   (Member)

Wow - at last - another MGM soundtrack is released! I had almost given up hope....... As manderley said - we want MORE!
Thanks, Lukas


 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

If the ice in the ice skating scene pictured on the back cover looks especially blue, it's because colored water was used in order to make the ice look better in Technicolor. According to modern sources, the 1952 film cost $2,606,644 to make, but grossed only $1,993,000. I'm pleased to add a few more dollars to the take by purchasing this release.

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   swtaysun   (Member)


Are there more MGM musical offering possibilities?

The Cult of Jerry may be something else but the Cult of Judy is off the charts when it comes to seeking every nook and nugget!!

There never was a CD release for "Broadway Melody of 1938", "Ziegfield Girl", etc., etc.

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Question- are any of the tracks that early multitrack stereo?

The sound clip for track 18 ("I Wanna Be a Dancin' Man") sounds like it has some stereo spread, at least when compared to the other tracks.

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Question- are any of the tracks that early multitrack stereo?.....

Don't know about all of the material, but from the clips it sounds like for at least Astaire's "I Wanna Be a Dancin' Man," Lukas has picked up the stereo mix that was available via the THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT 3 theatrical release.

This 1952 period is rocky for MGM stereo since so many of the stereo stems were mixed to mono and then thrown out. But Lukas is pretty thorough, so I imagine he has utilized as much for his album mixes as is still available, whether it be mono or stereo.

It feels like this CD release might contain a bit more material than was available for download, but I haven't checked it against the download version so I don't know for sure. Has anyone else done this?

If Lukas continues with these musicals, I hope he doesn't use the download material and, instead, goes back to what is totally available in the vaults for each title. I DO know that the download version of DEEP IN MY HEART didn't have everything that was available, particularly in the area of underscore.

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Great news, it was about time! When was the last MGM Musical on Rhino Handmade released? In 2004? Hope this works for Lukas in terms of sales!

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   morrifan   (Member)

kudos - hail the melodic genius of Harry Warren

don't mean to sound spoiled, but any chance for Warren & Gershwin's "Barkleys Of Broadway"?

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   Skyros   (Member)

This is FANTASTIC news. Let's hope for more. I have the download and don't think there is any extra material here BUT to have this as a proper CD with liner notes & full track details is AMAZING !!!

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

The color artwork on the packaging of this CD is beautiful.....and though we all love Harry Warren, Johnny Mercer, Adolph Deutsch, Roger Edens, Conrad Salinger and Alexander Courage.....does anyone else find it curious that the primary artist of this disc, and the only reason the film exists at all, is Fred Astaire---and his name is to be found NOWHERE on the exterior packaging!!!

I wonder if this is a matter of simple oversight or, possibly, avoidance of the musical roots of this release, or, possibly, the litigious nature of Mrs. Robyn Astaire.

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Great news, it was about time! When was the last MGM Musical on Rhino Handmade released? In 2004? Hope this works for Lukas in terms of sales!

I'll be buying a copy at some point soon. As noted elsewhere, I need to see what VS has coming out before I make my orders from places.

 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:47 PM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

I can't believe it! This is really great news! I've thoroughly been enjoying the "Belle" songs on the "Fred Astaire At M-G-M" set for almost a decade now. Although the songs in "Belle Of New York" were not as enduring as that in other Astaire musicals (just think of the standards from the RKO pictures with Ginger Rogers and "The Band Wagon" or "Easter Parade"), they are still catchy and nice nostalgic treasures. There's also been a single by Doris Day featuring "Baby Doll" and "Oops" which is quite recommendable. I've had the download for several years, but rarely returned to it due to the frustration of not having it in lossless sound quality (all efforts to download the lossless version failed - now I'm glad about itwink).

I was hoping that this would be part of the recent Rhino re-issues by Sony Classical - and now we're getting it from FSM. I hope this release contains recording details in the tradition of the old Rhino releases. Well done, Lukas! Hopefully, this will prove to be successful and even the path for further releases from the M-G-M library (there must be plenty of unreleased material from the 1930s to the late 1950s).

Many thanks! Considering the foresights about Monday's Varese releases this could really be a great month for Golden Age collectors - and a bad one for their walletssmile

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