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 Posted:   Feb 26, 2007 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I'm sure many of you have seen the 1953 movie FROM HERE TO
ETERNITY which sported amazing performances by Clift, Lancaster,
Reed, Kerr, Sinatra and others. I've always enjoyed it, but I admit
that I've never tuned into the film music for this movie.

For some reason, during the past few days, that famous scene where
Lancaster kisses Kerr on the beach has played on my TV, and that
scene is underscored by a gorgeous love theme. (DOMD..Duh On
My "Dumbness" or Duh On My Deafness... for never noticing the music.)
I looked up the composer on IMDB, and it was George Dunning, a fine
composer.

Here is what I find odd. When you look up Dunning, you'll see he is
the composer for movies like 3:10 TO YUMA and many others. By many
movies, you'll see the words "stock uncredited," and I understand what that means.
However, by FROM HERE TO ETERNITY, it says George Dunning "background
music." That is it, and that is the only movie that says that about him.

I'm confused. Does this mean that he did not compose anything "new" for
this movie? Why not "stock uncredited" then? Also, was this music ever
used in another movie and then transferred to FHTE? Was it released
on CD? I look forward to some of you educating me. Gracias.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2007 - 10:15 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

jOan, the very scene you mention was on cDfrom Japan. It was originally a 1956 Decca LP Side one was the musical score from the musical You Can't Run Away from It.
Side two was three background music suites lifted from the actual soundtracks of From Here to Eternity, Eddy Duchin Story (dramtic scoring not on the actual soundtrack album) and Leonard Bernsteins On the Waterfront which included a short piece deleted from the final film.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2007 - 10:34 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....I'm sure many of you have seen the 1953 movie FROM HERE TO
ETERNITY which sported amazing performances by Clift, Lancaster,
Reed, Kerr, Sinatra and others. I've always enjoyed it, but I admit
that I've never tuned into the film music for this movie.

For some reason, during the past few days, that famous scene where
Lancaster kisses Kerr on the beach has played on my TV, and that
scene is underscored by a gorgeous love theme. (DOMD..Duh On
My "Dumbness" or Duh On My Deafness... for never noticing the music.)
I looked up the composer on IMDB, and it was George Dunning, a fine
composer.

Here is what I find odd. When you look up Dunning, you'll see he is
the composer for movies like 3:10 TO YUMA and many others. By many
movies, you'll see the words "stock uncredited," and I understand what that means.
However, by FROM HERE TO ETERNITY, it says George Dunning "background
music." That is it, and that is the only movie that says that about him.

I'm confused. Does this mean that he did not compose anything "new" for
this movie? Why not "stock uncredited" then? Also, was this music ever
used in another movie and then transferred to FHTE? Was it released
on CD? I look forward to some of you educating me. Gracias.....



Joan.....I'm sure you know that George Duning was the KEY Columbia Pictures scoring master during the 1940s and particularly, the 1950s.

The IMDB is often vague and inconsistent about its terminology. Duning did the "score" for the film, and, as Joe Caps says, a suite of this music was on an old Decca soundtrack LP, later transferred to a Japanese cd.

I think the distinction of "background score" is probably made because the film, set in Hawaii, also has a number of tracks by a Hawaiian group doing source cues. This music also came out on a Decca soundtrack lp concurrent with the release of the film, but to the best of my knowledge, has never been issued on CD.

So, "Original/Background Score"---George Duning, "Source Music"---Hawaiian group, or however you want to say it. smile

I have to say that George Duning is one of those composers whose melodies and style, after you hear them awhile, are so recognizable that you can hardly ever mistake them.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2007 - 10:45 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Thank you Joe and Manderly. The IMDB isn't always reliable, but it does mention the Hawaiian source music. If I'm reading you both correctly, the composer did compose an original score for this movie. That makes sense to me since it was a rather big production with well-known movie actors, so I would assume they would hire a composer for an original score.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2007 - 1:08 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Ah, it's always refreshing to see a great film like this one suddenly appear at this place. So many memorable scenes. And you're not the only one, joan; I too have a hard time hearing it in the mind's ear. But the knife-fight with Fatso to the blare of the Hawaiian stuff in the background comes through crystal clear.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2007 - 3:26 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I need to see the film again, Howard, and really listen to the music. I forgot about Ernest Borgnine playing Fatso. He did a fine job of playing an evil guy and then became a sweetie in Marty and his TV series.

It is a classic movie, and I hope the "youngers" on the board check it out. If I remember correctly, Sinatra had to beg for his part and then went on to win an Oscar...I think. Donna Reed, who usually played such a sweet innocent person, certainly wasn't typecast in the movie, and she was effective as a sexpot. Montgomery Clift always played tortured characters with wonderful authenticity. (Of course, it just tortured me to look at Lancaster in a bathing suit.wink)

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2007 - 3:47 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I need to see the film again, Howard, and really listen to the music. I forgot about Ernest Borgnine playing Fatso. He did a fine job of playing an evil guy and then became a sweetie in Marty and his TV series.

It is a classic movie, and I hope the "youngers" on the board check it out. If I remember correctly, Sinatra had to beg for his part and then went on to win an Oscar...I think. Donna Reed, who usually played such a sweet innocent person, certainly wasn't typecast in the movie, and she was effective as a sexpot. Montgomery Clift always played tortured characters with wonderful authenticity. (Of course, it just tortured me to look at Lancaster in a bathing suit.wink)


Ii's always been a point of fascination that certain parts give fine actresses a nod or even an Academy award. Specifically, prostitutes or "Ladies of Easy Virtue". Wholesome Donna Reed
got hers for this fine film, Wholesome Shirley Jones in ELMER GANTRY, Dorothy Malone in WRITTEN ON THE WIND- there are other examples.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2007 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

I remember tuning in to see FROM HERE TO ETERNITY on tv in Florida back in the late 70's. When the camera cut to the downtown stroll my ears pricked up - NO MUSIC! That great montage of source cues was gone. Then, when Maggio and Prew go into the New Congress Club and Maggio asks "who's the elephant plunkin' on the piano" - NO PIANO! The music didn't come in until the close-up of Borgnine.

What had happened was that Columbia Pictures Television had made a new 16mm neg and had left out the part of the music track. I never found out whether or not the film had perhaps been re-mixed for stereo at the time of reissue and somehow one of the music tracks hadn't been supplied for the 16 neg. Weird. Fortunately my print has ALL the music!

This same dropping of music also happened when Blackhawk films made a new neg of SAPS AT SEA. The entire music track for reel 2B was left out.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2007 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Frank Sinatra sand "From Here to Eternity" and it appears on the Complete Capitol Singles Collection and a few other compilations. I don't recall the story about why the song wasn't used, but here are the lyrics:

You vowed your love
From here to eternity
A love so true,
It never would die

You gave your lips
Gave them so willingly
How could I know
Your kiss meant goodbye?

Now I'm alone
With only a memory
My empty arms
Will never know why...

Though you are gone
This love that you left with me
Will live from here to eternity.

Now I'm alone
With only a memory
My empty arms
Will never know why...
__________________________________________


*It's not one of the best songs he ever did, but it's far from the worst...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2007 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Fortunately my print has ALL the music!

Excellent. I'll take that as an invitation. Will bring popcorn.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2007 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

Fortunately my print has ALL the music!

Excellent. I'll take that as an invitation. Will bring popcorn.



Okee dokee. And the second feature will be BAMBOO PRISON with Robert Francis!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2007 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Yeah, I want to join Howard, so please send me first-class flight ticket, Ray. smile

So there are lyrics to this theme? My, what we learn from such learned people on this board.

I do find it ironic that women who leave the "nice girl" image behind often garner Oscars or nominations. I think there is some hidden sociological comment there about how we raise our daughters. For some reason, we think that playing a prostitute stretches women's dramatic acting abilities more than playing an innocent.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2007 - 8:04 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

jOan, the very scene you mention was on cDfrom Japan. It was originally a 1956 Decca LP Side one was the musical score from the musical You Can't Run Away from It.
Side two was three background music suites lifted from the actual soundtracks of From Here to Eternity, Eddy Duchin Story (dramtic scoring not on the actual soundtrack album) and Leonard Bernsteins On the Waterfront which included a short piece deleted from the final film.


For those who like to look at things:

http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=16113

(I got hooked at a Hukilau??)


 
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