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 Posted:   Nov 11, 2005 - 2:51 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I put on the Nat King Cole vocal of this Ray Noble classic and damn me if I wasn't taken in more than dear old Ma, whom I'd brought over to my place for lunch. Even went back to the turntable (gee what's that?) for an encore. Anyway, I know Jerry Goldsmith used the instrumental in Caboblanco and the Billie Holiday recording in Forever Young. It obviously must have been dear to his heart. One of our party in the Detroit thing a few years ago was trying to ask him about it when Mr. G was interrupted and our inquirer never did get his answer.

Anyone know of any personal significance of this song to the late Mr. G?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2009 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Under the file of It Doesn't Get Any Better Than This:

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2009 - 3:07 AM   
 By:   Misanthropic Tendencies   (Member)

Anyway, I know Jerry Goldsmith used the instrumental in Caboblanco and the Billie Holiday recording in Forever Young. It obviously must have been dear to his heart. Anyone know of any personal significance of this song to the late Mr. G?

I sincerely doubt he had anything to do with its placement in Forever Young, it would have been something selected by the director, music supervisor etc. It's rare a pre-existing song not composed by them is spotted by the composer.

As for Caboblanco, I surmise he was asked (or more likely the orchestrator) to make an arrangement.

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2017 - 11:40 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Well here we go again, I just discovered an instrumental placement in another Goldsmith film, Six Degrees Of Separation. That makes three.

PS
I see the Cole link above has been scotched so here's another:

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2017 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Well here we go again, I just discovered an instrumental placement in another Goldsmith film, Six Degrees Of Separation. That makes three.



Hmmm. Yes, I'd start to think it was more than a coincidence, too.

I wonder if money has something to do with it. Does one of JG's friends get a slice of the royalties for this song, maybe?

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2017 - 9:33 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Well I'm going to be the romantic and say Jerry's a romantic and this one he couldn't get enough of. It's right up there alongside "Night and Day," "Stardust" and "As Time Goes By" in the all-time standard dept.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2017 - 11:10 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Well here we go again, I just discovered an instrumental placement in another Goldsmith film, Six Degrees Of Separation. That makes three.


Well, here's another Goldsmith connection that is only two degrees of separation: Star Trek: The Next Generation's Brent Spiner recorded it on his 1991 album Ol' Yellow Eyes Is Back.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2017 - 11:36 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I wonder if money has something to do with it. Does one of JG's friends get a slice of the royalties for this song, maybe?


The song was composed by English bandleader Ray Noble in 1934. He held the rights throughout his lifetime. After he died in 1978, the rights reverted to his wife Gladys. She assigned them to the publisher Herald Square Music in 1990.

The only connections between Goldsmith and Noble that I could dredge up were:

1. Both men composed music for the CBS Radio Workshop, which was an experimental dramatic radio anthology series that aired on CBS from January 27, 1956, until September 22, 1957. Goldsmith did the music for four episodes of the series; Noble did two.

2, In the 1990 film, THE RUSSIA HOUSE, protagonist "Barley" Blair, played by Sean Connery, is portrayed as having once played in the "great Ray Noble's Band."

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2017 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Hey thanks Bob for the info. I've always associated Noble with Astaire for obvious reasons. Anyway, tonight's Final Jeopardy question is right up your alley [speaking of standards one of which is mentioned in this thread]. Has to do with a "snippet" of music from a 1942 film incorporated with the WB logo since '99. Duh. wink

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2017 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

As it's been almost a half-hour and no one's bit, is it "As Time Goes By"?

...And what did Eddie Cantor have to do with WB's "Merrie Melodies" theme?

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2017 - 8:20 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Answer in the form of a question, please! wink

 
 Posted:   May 5, 2017 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I used to confuse "The Very Thought of You" with "My One and Only Love", the latter having the opening line, "The very thought of you/makes my heart sing/like an April breeze on the wings of spring/and you appear in all your splendor/my one and only love"

"My One and Only Love", as sung by Johnny Hartman (with musical accompaniment from John Coltrane) is one of the greatest things I've ever heard. John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman is, for my money, the best vocal album ever recorded.

But don't take my word for it:



As for the song in the post, another delightful compostion, the Four Freshmen did an outstanding rendition, though I have no YouTube link to regale you all with.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2023 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Hey Yavar, brought this back per your JG westerns thread. Anything in your travels that can shed light? I like to think he had something to do personally with the various placements/arrangements. Three times just seems too coincidental.

 
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