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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      General Discussion: Greatest Story Ever Told     1 2 3    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Mar 27, 2024 - 12:49 PM     By:   David Charles   (Member) I have the three CD set which has the original LP recording and two CDs of soundtrack music but I wonder if there is any more of this score as yet unreleased. Also I would welcome a recording which combines the LP music chronologically with the soundtrack. It would be interesting to hear the 'Raising of Lazarus' as used in the film even though it is 'lifted' from 'The Robe' and Handel.    Posted:   Mar 27, 2024 - 1:49 PM     By:   MichaelM   (Member) There are a few pieces missing such as the temptation by the devil, the film versions of "A Time of Wonders", "A New Commandment" and the finale of the crucifixion. Also missing is the source music in Herod's palace (including Salome's dance) and the otherworldly wailing sounds by the Inbal Dance Theatre members which are used quite effectively in the film. And who knows how much more music Newman wrote that never made it into the film.    Posted:   Mar 27, 2024 - 2:56 PM     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member) If there's any more that could be added or improved over the earlier expansion, I would double dip on this great score in an instant. Same goes for How the West Was Won; I know the 2CD Rhino edition had some errors and omissions. Yavar    Posted:   Mar 27, 2024 - 3:33 PM     By:   emusician   (Member) I have the three CD set which has the original LP recording and two CDs of soundtrack music but I wonder if there is any more of this score as yet unreleased. Also I would welcome a recording which combines the LP music chronologically with the soundtrack. It would be interesting to hear the 'Raising of Lazarus' as used in the film even though it is 'lifted' from 'The Robe' and Handel. Did the Lazarus scene actually use the original The Robe recording or did Newman re-record The Robe music for this scene with some slight variations? It’s been a while, but I never thought it was an exact match?    Posted:   Mar 27, 2024 - 4:09 PM     By:   Phil567   (Member) If there's any more that could be added or improved over the earlier expansion, I would double dip on this great score in an instant. Same goes for How the West Was Won; I know the 2CD Rhino edition had some errors and omissions. Yavar I love the 2CD Rhino edition of How The West Was Won. I made my own compilation from that that includes only those tracks without vocals. I wish they could release the 2CD set without any vocals.    Posted:   Mar 27, 2024 - 4:15 PM     By:   David Charles   (Member) I've just watched the film again and I think you are right about 'The Robe' music. Although essentially the crucifixion music it is not identical and it may be that Newman adapted the piece for this film. The music he originally wrote for this scene and for the resurrection scene were still, in my opinion, perfectly suitable and did not need replacing by Handel. In addition, as nice as Verdi's Requiem is for the Via Dolorosa sequence, I still feel that Newman's music would have been perfectly suitable.    Posted:   Mar 27, 2024 - 4:51 PM     By:   Prince Damian   (Member) The thing that is wrong with the tracked music, for me, is they are too recognisable. And that goes for much of the needle drop choices/mentality. It pulls you out the film.    Posted:   Mar 27, 2024 - 5:12 PM     By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member) I've just watched the film again and I think you are right about 'The Robe' music. Although essentially the crucifixion music it is not identical and it may be that Newman adapted the piece for this film. The music he originally wrote for this scene and for the resurrection scene were still, in my opinion, perfectly suitable and did not need replacing by Handel. In addition, as nice as Verdi's Requiem is for the Via Dolorosa sequence, I still feel that Newman's music would have been perfectly suitable. Agreed on both counts. While the Verdi Requiem has since become one of my all-time favorite pieces of music, I feel it’s a little too beautiful for the procession to Calvary and would have preferred Newman’s more downbeat cue for the scene.    Posted:   Mar 27, 2024 - 6:39 PM     By:   podres185   (Member) A full and complete account of Newman's effort on TGSET can be found in his collaborator Ken Darby's "Hollywood Holyland" -- which also happens to be perhaps the finest account extant of any film composer experience. It details the many and varied changes imposed by George Stevens that led, eventually, to Newman's asking to have his name removed from the credits.    Posted:   Mar 27, 2024 - 8:56 PM     By:   oregstevens   (Member) This really needs to be reissued with all the cues in proper film order. Disc one (the LP program) contains most of the major score cues, while the other two discs contain the remainder of the score. You have to manually program all the contents among the three discs to get a sense of the score's continuity.    Posted:   Mar 28, 2024 - 2:31 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) We live in time now where apparently not even 3 CDs are enough! Mindboggling. I have the 3CD set, but I only ever play the first OST disc. The Händel piece is fine, but the performance is rather meager and tinny. For an evergreen piece that has been performed so many times, and in far superior versions, I find it rough listening on album (it works better in the film). So I'm considering exchanging it with Newman's original cue in my iTunes. I could, alternatively, put in one of the other versions of the "Hallelujah" chorus that are in my collection, but its superior performance and sound quality would feel even more alienating, so not really a viable option.    Posted:   Mar 28, 2024 - 3:06 AM     By:   moolik   (Member) I know it is a great score...but somehow I doesn´t connect with me. It´s probably, because its so "laidback and tender" in comparison to Rozsas bilblical music, that I fall asleep sort of after the first cd But nevertheless a good one of course. I think the 3 CD set is pretty good and covers a lot. BUT...I´d rather go for an expanded AIRPORT! This one is just too short on CD and its missing A LOT!!!!    Posted:   Mar 28, 2024 - 3:08 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) I know it is a great score...but somehow I doesn´t connect with me. It´s probably, because its so "laidback and tender" in comparison to Rozsas bilblical music, that I fall asleep sort of after the first cd Interestingly, that's one of my main attractions to it. Some of the Rozsa stuff can get a bit tiresome for my ears (although his more lyrical or religious parts outshine anything in GREATEST).    Posted:   Mar 28, 2024 - 3:11 AM     By:   moolik   (Member) Yes Thor..maybe...and actually I have the same feeling when it comes to Rozsa as you do.And I think his scores , as great as they are, are a bit repetitive .The Roman marches I couldnt seperate at all from the differentmovie    Posted:   Mar 28, 2024 - 3:13 AM     By:   Prince Damian   (Member) Roman marches I couldnt seperate at all from the differentmovie That's coz it was the same one in some of them.    Posted:   Mar 28, 2024 - 7:54 AM     By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member) Newman was rather ill over the course of scoring this film. Ken Darby's book "Hollywood, Holyland" is a film music fan treasure. Darby recounts much of the madness that went on during the filming and later. At one point, Stevens was said to have declared, "This film will immortalize Handel"! Newman had to contend with many professional slights/insults as his ideas for original music in some scenes were negated in favor of using both cues from "The Robe" and classical music. Newman, fed up with the end result, allegedly attempted to have his name removed from the film credits, but to no avail. Some critics were harsh about Newman "taking credit for" the Handel bits in the film. That is because there was nothing in the credits indicating any of the music was other than original. Alternate cuts of the film, when it first arrived on home video via VHS, had some of Newman's discarded music reinstated.    Posted:   Mar 28, 2024 - 8:14 AM     By:   Doug Raynes   (Member) I have the three CD set which has the original LP recording and two CDs of soundtrack music but I wonder if there is any more of this score as yet unreleased. Also I would welcome a recording which combines the LP music chronologically with the soundtrack. It would be interesting to hear the 'Raising of Lazarus' as used in the film even though it is 'lifted' from 'The Robe' and Handel. Did the Lazarus scene actually use the original The Robe recording or did Newman re-record The Robe music for this scene with some slight variations? It’s been a while, but I never thought it was an exact match? From reading Ken Derby’s ‘Hollywood Holyland’ it seems that Alfred Newman re-recorded the music after George Stevens insisted it be used after making a deal with 20th Century Fox.    Posted:   Mar 28, 2024 - 9:36 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) At one point, Stevens was said to have declared, "This film will immortalize Handel"! That's funny. I'm fairly certain the "Hallelujah" chorus was already an evergreen in 1965!    Posted:   Mar 28, 2024 - 10:09 AM     By:   Prince Damian   (Member) At one point, Stevens was said to have declared, "This film will immortalize Handel"! That's funny. I'm fairly certain the "Hallelujah" chorus was already an evergreen in 1965! I always thought he meant Irene. ( one for the British, there).    Posted:   Mar 28, 2024 - 10:45 AM     By:   Rozsaphile   (Member) This really needs to be reissued with all the cues in proper film order. Disc one (the LP program) contains most of the major score cues, while the other two discs contain the remainder of the score. You have to manually program all the contents among the three discs to get a sense of the score's continuity. Eh? Disc one contains rearrangements. Discs two and three comprise essentially the entire score in sequence omitting the embarrassing Stevens interpolations.     General Discussion: Greatest Story Ever Told    < 1 2 3  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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