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 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Mark malmstrom   (Member)



Besides no cross-mixing (allthough it is okay to put the cross-mixed tracks from 1998 release onto the release as bonus tracks along the un-crossmixed identical tracks that can appear in the film score) i have a special request


the 1998 release has some kind of nostalgic to it being the first expanded bond score that was ever released

i do like the backcover photo very much

i know La La land go for a specific style for the 007 backcovers but Die Another Day had a picture on it's backcover

i do hope TLD will have the the Bond car and the exploding garage on the backcover - it ws on the 1998 release and everytime i see THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS i sort of think about the 1998 backcover when looking at that scene


smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

I think the Rykodisc is perfect.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   Mark malmstrom   (Member)

I think the Rykodisc is perfect.

It's not complete (misses some cues) - the notes are in a fold out poster that is annoying - the is some few hiss problems in EXERCISE AT GIBRALTAR

the CD-rom is kind of an obsolete thing now (can you still play the scene from the film? - ice chase scene)


i do like the back cover though - the colors of the front cover i also like

i have it since i bought it back in 1999 or so - or 2000

it's a nostalgic thing i do want to keep the back cover picture

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

Yes, a little bit is missing, but the score presentation covers most of it. Unless there is something substantial missing, I think the Rykodisc is a superb listening experience and would be at the bottom of my list for a reissue - and I say this as a fan of the score. I'm sure it will happen, probably 2027.

 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

It's not happening. Not at this time, anyway.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

It's not happening.

Cheers


What part? The back cover image he requested? Or a reissue itself?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   BasilDowl   (Member)

It's my favourite Bond film and one of the finest scores of the series - but it's probably last on the list for an updated release tbf. Almost all of it is on the Ryko, in good sound and still freely available.

The Man With The Golden Gun, The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, A View to A Kill and Licence to Kill should all take priority imo

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

This probably needs co-operation from Warner Bros. who released the original album. Which would be a blocker.

 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

This probably needs co-operation from Warner Bros. who released the original album. Which would be a blocker.

I have no knowledge of any plans to reissue The Living Daylights, but the WB album would not be relevant. I remember the Rykodisc CD (I helped sequence the bonus tracks) was done because the album rights had reverted from WB Records to MGM.

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I have no knowledge of any plans to reissue The Living Daylights, but the WB album would not be relevant. I remember the Rykodisc CD (I helped sequence the bonus tracks) was done because the album rights had reverted from WB Records to MGM.
Lukas


That's very good news!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   seinmind   (Member)

This probably needs co-operation from Warner Bros. who released the original album. Which would be a blocker.

Did Warner Bros put The Living Daylights out of print a few years after it was released on CD? Review websites at the time noted the "rarity" of the album and how later the 1998 Expanded Ryko was a treasured release for Barry/Bond collectors. Octopussy on CD had a known cover art problem, and MCA kept License To Kill in print for a long while.

 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 10:23 PM   
 By:   VeronicaMars   (Member)

This probably needs co-operation from Warner Bros. who released the original album. Which would be a blocker.

Did Warner Bros put The Living Daylights out of print a few years after it was released on CD? Review websites at the time noted the "rarity" of the album and how later the 1998 Expanded Ryko was a treasured release for Barry/Bond collectors. Octopussy on CD had a known cover art problem, and MCA kept License To Kill in print for a long while.


Warner Bros. Records and several other labels like MCA Records, Virgin Movie Music, Cinedisc and Disney were notorious for putting a lot of their soundtracks into "cut out" bins back in the late 80s and the early 90s and throughout the 90s somewhat. That's how scores like The Witches of Eastwick, The Accidental Tourist, Shipwrecked, Rescuers Down Under, Dick Tracy, Red Heat, Willow, Dragnet, Moon Over Parador, Big Top Pee Wee, Batteries Not Included, Rampage, Roxanne, The Seventh Sign, Rambling Rose and others ended up there since they were simply not selling at all. Many ended up in the discount bargin bins of places like Sam Goody, Camelot, Tower Records, Musicland record stores with a small drill hole or a nasty hacksaw cut on one of the sides. Even the long boxes had those too. Later cut outs had a punch hole on the cover instead of the drill mark or saw cuts which were seen on releases by Big Screen Records and Fox Film Scores titles like The Good Son, For Love Or Money, Hoffa, Dennis The Menace and others. The Bonfire of the Vanities by Dave Grusin is one I've seen frequently with a punch out on the cover and that one quickly pretty much went out of print of the the films' failure Christmas 1990.

I think The Living Daylights might have even went out of print by the end of 1988 or even before that which made it an instant collectable. I used to own it and I've seen at least one or two copies of that in the years after I owned it and one of them had a small drill hole on the side of the case where the writing is. So I can say that one did end up in one of those bargin bins I mentioned earlier.

 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2024 - 10:57 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

For what it's worth I seem to recall counting up the as-yet still unreleased music and identifying 7 unreleased cues, all short.

One I recall was in the pre-title sequence.

The most significant one was the sequence where Bond and Kara are captured and taken in the Hercules, and discover that the heart transplant box is smuggling Diamonds.

Ultimately, I'd like to get all Barry's Bond scores out in fully complete editions with the original album program and bonus tracks.

That said, I agree that as it has an "almost complete" presentation, it must be lower priority than the other remaining unexpanded Barry Bond scores.

To the person who questioned what my "it's not happening" comment meant, it's a direct reply to the thread title.

Neil Bulk made it quite clear in the recent podcast that LLL is not currently working on any more Bond titles.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2024 - 12:04 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

Neil Bulk made it quite clear in the recent podcast that LLL is not currently working on any more Bond titles.

And this is just a small business lie, because we all know that they have been planning at least three titles for years - OHMSS, MR & LTK. But I don't hold it against him, we just have to wait patiently, let's hope not another 40 years, because I probably won't live to see it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2024 - 1:11 AM   
 By:   Jamesbond2021   (Member)

Yes, a little bit is missing, but the score presentation covers most of it. Unless there is something substantial missing, I think the Rykodisc is a superb listening experience and would be at the bottom of my list for a reissue - and I say this as a fan of the score. I'm sure it will happen, probably 2027.


I can take no credit for this complete list of cues for The Living Daylights but hope it helps it was produced by Bond_scores who posts on this message board


THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS (1987) - COMPLETE LIST OF CUES

Composer: John Barry

01 Gun Barrel & Exercise At Gibraltar
02 Death To Spies (Exercise At Gibraltar Continued)
03 Land Rover Fight (Exercise At Gibraltar Continued)
04 A Real Man* (0.26)
05 The Living Daylights (Main Title) (2.49)
06 The Sniper Was A Woman
07 Koskov Escapes
08 Where Has Everybody Gone? (Necros Headphones Source)
09 Kitchen Fight
10 Necros Attacks
11 Approaching Kara
12 Kara Meets Bond
13 Why Didn’t You Learn The Violin?* (0.30)
14 Ice Chase
15 Into Vienna (Film Version)* (0.55)
16 Ferris Wheel Ride* (0.43)
17 Murder At The Fair
18 Tailing Pushkin
19 Then I Must Die* (1.25)
20 ‘Assassin’
21 Looking For A Party?* (0.23)
22 Drugged
23 Aboard Hercules* (0.39)
24 Cold Heart* (0.32)
25 Airbase
26 Jail Fight
27 Jailbreak
28 The Work Of The Mujahadin
29 Bond & Kara* (1.49)
30 Mujahadin & Opium
31 Afghanistan Plan
32 Bond The Stowaway* (1.16)
33 Afghanistan Plan Continued
34 Hercules Takes Off
35 Inflight Fight
36 He Got The Boot* (0.26)
37 Air Bond
38 Final Confrontation
39 Kissing Kara* (0.28)
40 If There Was A Man (Film Version)* (2.50)

BONUS
41 The Living Daylights (Album Version)
42 The Living Daylights (Extended Version)
43 The Living Daylights (Instrumental)
44 The Living Daylights (Demo)
45 The Living Daylights (A-ha Version)
46 Into Vienna (Alternate)
47 If There Was A Man (Album Version)
48 Alternate End Titles
49 Chris Blackwell - Sacred Heart (Ghetto Blaster Source)
50 Johnny Hawksworth & De Wolfe Music featuring Hampton Hawes - Jazz Compass (Aston Martin Radio Source)
51 Mozart - Symphony No. 40 In G Minor, K. 550: I - Molto Allegro
52 Borodin - String Quartet No. 2 In D: III - Notturno: Andante
53 Strauss - Wein, Weib und Gesang Waltz
54 Mozart - Il Nozze Di Figaro K. 492 - Act II - 07 - Aprite, Presto, Aprite - Recitativo O Guarda Il Demonietto!
55 Dvorak - Cello Concerto In B Minor
56 Tchaikovsky - Variations On A Rococo Theme

*12 minutes 20 seconds approx. unreleased music

Notes:
The 1998 Rykodisc CD fills in a lot of the gaps from the OST released in 1987, but there still are a number of cues missing. Most of them centre around the melody of ‘If There Was A Man’ from the end titles. There is a variation of it when Bond picks up Kara’s cello and a slower version when they ride the ferris wheel in Austria. Speaking of the end titles, the film version differs very subtly in that the drum pattern is crossfaded into Chrissie Hynde’s vocal, whereas the soundtrack version just has it from the start of the track. Other notable missing cues include the scene where Bond and Kara embrace in Afghanistan. This is exactly the same as the end of the latter half of ‘Kara Meets Bond’ on the OST, but it ends on a major tonality rather than a minor. Cues when Bond is unconscious aboard the Hercules, which are a slower tempo version of ‘Where Has Everybody Gone?’ with a new counter-harmony, also have sadly never seen the light of day. I've also listed the sizeable amount of classical music featured in the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2024 - 4:20 AM   
 By:   BasilDowl   (Member)

Yes, a little bit is missing, but the score presentation covers most of it. Unless there is something substantial missing, I think the Rykodisc is a superb listening experience and would be at the bottom of my list for a reissue - and I say this as a fan of the score. I'm sure it will happen, probably 2027.


I can take no credit for this complete list of cues for The Living Daylights but hope it helps it was produced by Bond_scores who posts on this message board


THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS (1987) - COMPLETE LIST OF CUES

Composer: John Barry

01 Gun Barrel & Exercise At Gibraltar
02 Death To Spies (Exercise At Gibraltar Continued)
03 Land Rover Fight (Exercise At Gibraltar Continued)
04 A Real Man* (0.26)
05 The Living Daylights (Main Title) (2.49)
06 The Sniper Was A Woman
07 Koskov Escapes
08 Where Has Everybody Gone? (Necros Headphones Source)
09 Kitchen Fight
10 Necros Attacks
11 Approaching Kara
12 Kara Meets Bond
13 Why Didn’t You Learn The Violin?* (0.30)
14 Ice Chase
15 Into Vienna (Film Version)* (0.55)
16 Ferris Wheel Ride* (0.43)
17 Murder At The Fair
18 Tailing Pushkin
19 Then I Must Die* (1.25)
20 ‘Assassin’
21 Looking For A Party?* (0.23)
22 Drugged
23 Aboard Hercules* (0.39)
24 Cold Heart* (0.32)
25 Airbase
26 Jail Fight
27 Jailbreak
28 The Work Of The Mujahadin
29 Bond & Kara* (1.49)
30 Mujahadin & Opium
31 Afghanistan Plan
32 Bond The Stowaway* (1.16)
33 Afghanistan Plan Continued
34 Hercules Takes Off
35 Inflight Fight
36 He Got The Boot* (0.26)
37 Air Bond
38 Final Confrontation
39 Kissing Kara* (0.28)
40 If There Was A Man (Film Version)* (2.50)

BONUS
41 The Living Daylights (Album Version)
42 The Living Daylights (Extended Version)
43 The Living Daylights (Instrumental)
44 The Living Daylights (Demo)
45 The Living Daylights (A-ha Version)
46 Into Vienna (Alternate)
47 If There Was A Man (Album Version)
48 Alternate End Titles
49 Chris Blackwell - Sacred Heart (Ghetto Blaster Source)
50 Johnny Hawksworth & De Wolfe Music featuring Hampton Hawes - Jazz Compass (Aston Martin Radio Source)
51 Mozart - Symphony No. 40 In G Minor, K. 550: I - Molto Allegro
52 Borodin - String Quartet No. 2 In D: III - Notturno: Andante
53 Strauss - Wein, Weib und Gesang Waltz
54 Mozart - Il Nozze Di Figaro K. 492 - Act II - 07 - Aprite, Presto, Aprite - Recitativo O Guarda Il Demonietto!
55 Dvorak - Cello Concerto In B Minor
56 Tchaikovsky - Variations On A Rococo Theme

*12 minutes 20 seconds approx. unreleased music

Notes:
The 1998 Rykodisc CD fills in a lot of the gaps from the OST released in 1987, but there still are a number of cues missing. Most of them centre around the melody of ‘If There Was A Man’ from the end titles. There is a variation of it when Bond picks up Kara’s cello and a slower version when they ride the ferris wheel in Austria. Speaking of the end titles, the film version differs very subtly in that the drum pattern is crossfaded into Chrissie Hynde’s vocal, whereas the soundtrack version just has it from the start of the track. Other notable missing cues include the scene where Bond and Kara embrace in Afghanistan. This is exactly the same as the end of the latter half of ‘Kara Meets Bond’ on the OST, but it ends on a major tonality rather than a minor. Cues when Bond is unconscious aboard the Hercules, which are a slower tempo version of ‘Where Has Everybody Gone?’ with a new counter-harmony, also have sadly never seen the light of day. I've also listed the sizeable amount of classical music featured in the film.


Superb info, thanks for this

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2024 - 5:01 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Sometimes this board feels like an interesting exercise in the psychology of obsessives.

Is the FSM forum really a psychology lab? Are we being studied?

I know what you're thinking: What's he talking about?

Neil couldn't have been clearer thar LLL do not have another Bond in progress right now.

But it's not what we want to hear so we make up comforting stories in our heads ("it was a small business lie") and tell ourselves that the story we made up is the real truth.

Someone posts an inference that LLL are working on The Living Daylights, and then other people wade in with their inferences, confabulations, and misquotations and then people who half-read the headline gap-fill foe what they didn't read, misquote it, and add wishful thinking before they post it someplace else, and before you know it, you have an urban myth as hard to squash as "The Moonraker tapes are lost" and "John Williams wants to score the next Bond movie."

Why do we find it so hard to accept what Neil said?

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2024 - 6:03 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I think Neil said LLL aren't working on any Bond scores currently but that could change very quickly......or something similar. So there is hope. If they happen, they happen, if they don't, they don't. My view is we should enjoy what we have and not bother too much with speculation.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2024 - 6:47 AM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

I think Lukas said that the Bond and Kara cues were repetitive when put in chronological order. So as a listening experience it would be tiresome to hear it constantly in a short period of time. That being said, that's what playlists are for. big grin

The Rykodisc does a great job of representing the film score, I've never missed the missing cues, but I'll instantly buy it again because it's one of Barry's best scores.

I had to reorder tracks in my Octopussy playlist because the main title theme variations were too much in a short period of time. Gawd, I hope I ain't going full Thor here.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2024 - 7:15 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I agree the Rykodisc released cover everything worth releasing, and then some. What could possibly be missing that is unique? The Rykodisc is covers a lot of the same ground repeatedly as it is.

 
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