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 Posted:   Aug 14, 2023 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Steve Vertlieb   (Member)

https://wp.me/p2YnZH-nuL

Written originally for Roger Hall's prestigious "Film Music Review," and subsequently showcased by "Hugo Award" winning web magazine "File 770" (with Mr. Hall's gracious consent), here is a thoughtful compilation and deeply personal look at my choices for the twenty most profoundly significant, enduringly influential film scores of the past nearly one hundred years.

https://wp.me/p2YnZH-nuL

Steve Vertlieb

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2023 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

It's a great list; I agree with every one of them.

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2023 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   CK   (Member)

enduringly influential film scores of the past nearly one hundred years.

19 scores from the period 1933 to 1961, only one score from 1982, and nothing from the following four decades until today.

This list is VERY lop-sided.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2023 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

enduringly influential film scores of the past nearly one hundred years.

19 scores from the period 1933 to 1961, only one score from 1982, and nothing from the following four decades until today.

This list is VERY lop-sided.


It looks about right to me. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 1:45 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

19 scores from the period 1933 to 1961, only one score from 1982, and nothing from the following four decades until today.

This list is VERY lop-sided.


I have to agree with that, but to each their own. When I read 'influential', I thought the writer meant 'influential' on the film score scene, but obviously many of the titles here don't have that quality. I assume, instead, he means 'influential' in the sense that they were influential in his own personal film score fandom and exploration. It's basically just a list of the author's personal favourite scores, as he also says in the intro.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

TWO limiting factors severely affect lists such as these, loving the listed scores (and the many unlisted scores) as much as we do:

PAST NEARLY-100 YEARS
This is a near-impossible task to accomplish narrowing down thousands of scores down to 20 of them.
You have to leave out so many equally "influential" scores to whittle the list down to the arbitrary number of 20.
The AFI whittled them down to 25 in a sheet music book in 2007. I don't argue with their choices...well, maybe a few.
https://www.amazon.com/American-Film-Institutes-Top-Scores/dp/1423425669/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3PATCKIMFXCSB&keywords=The+AFI%27s+Top+25+Film+Scores&qid=1692105756&sprefix=the+afi%27s+top+25+film+scores%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-1

"DEEPLY PERSONAL"
It seems to me that THIS is the deciding factor in the choices settled upon, Steve.
Maybe a better title would be: "My Favorite 20 Influential Film Scores"
The limiting factors are defined and unarguable.

smile
Ron Burbella

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

"DEEPLY PERSONAL"
It seems to me that THIS is the deciding factor in the choices settled upon, Steve.
Maybe a better title would be: "My Favorite 20 Influential Film Scores"
The limiting factors are defined and unarguable.


Or better yet: "My Favorite 20 Film Scores". Leave out the 'influential' bit altogether.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I also thought the list would be works that heavily influenced film music trends, but when I saw The Ghost and Mrs. Muir at #1, I realized the list was more personal. The Ghost and Mrs, Muir is my favorite Herrmann score, but I wouldn't call it influential.

Many on this list were influential: Magnificent Seven, King Kong, Adv of Robin Hood, and so on.

And, of course, influential doesn't necessarily mean good.

Off the top of my head, influential film scores that affected trends include, in addition to the few already mentioned:

Citizen Kane
The Bride of Frankenstein
A Streetcar Named Desire
The Man with the Golden Arm
Goldfinger
A Fistful of Dollars
Bullitt
Star Wars
Chariots of Fire
Midnight Express

and so on

Steve, great list of scores, many of my own favorites and a couple I haven't heard--the William Alwyn, for instance.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

https://wp.me/p2YnZH-nuL

Written originally for Roger Hall's prestigious "Film Music Review," and subsequently showcased by "Hugo Award" winning web magazine "File 770" (with Mr. Hall's gracious consent), here is a thoughtful compilation and deeply personal look at my choices for the twenty most profoundly significant, enduringly influential film scores of the past nearly one hundred years.

https://wp.me/p2YnZH-nuL


Wait a minute, which one is it? You put in the title of this post "Twenty Influential Film Scores" but the article is "The Greatest Motion Picture Scores Of All Time." Those are two complete different things.

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   Steve Vertlieb   (Member)

Roger Hall at "Film Music Review" asked me to write about what I considered the "twenty greatest film scores of all time," along with an examination of each score, as well as its particular significance. Realizing that the assignment was nearly impossible to achieve, covering some ninety years of film music, the task quickly became the scores that meant the most to me. Had the assignment been to list the one hundred greatest or most significant scores since sound began, it would have been a far easier task. The selections, hence, are decidedly more personal, in that these scores have always meant a great deal to me individually. Rather than called the piece "my favorite scores" (which, frankly, anyone could do), I chose to call them "influential" scores, in that they were each sublimely influential in their own way in my emotional and intellectual development from youth to my currently elderly involvement in the community of film music aficionados. Sorry for any confusion, guys. Just trying to explain what is, of course, virtually unexplainable. In so doing, I've probably succeeded in confusing the issue all the more.

Steve

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

I really do think you are making things far more confusing for no good reason, Steve. LOL!

I understand what you are trying to achieve but the headline is a bit misleading and, yes, the more simplified "My Favourite Scores of blah, blah, blah" would have been far more effective in communicating the overall feeling of your article.

Anywho, thanks for sharing!

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


Off the top of my head, influential film scores that affected trends include, in addition to the few already mentioned:

Citizen Kane
The Bride of Frankenstein
A Streetcar Named Desire
The Man with the Golden Arm
Goldfinger
A Fistful of Dollars
Bullitt
Star Wars
Chariots of Fire
Midnight Express


This is an insanely concise and well-thought list.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Raider S   (Member)

For influential I'd have to add Jaws and Planet of the Apes. Maybe Close Encounters.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

One that I missed from my quick list was Psycho.

And perhaps To Kill a Mockingbird, because it is essentially a chamber-sized more intimate Americana score without jazz elements, paving the way for scores like A Patch of Blue.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

One that I missed from my quick list was Psycho.

And perhaps To Kill a Mockingbird, because it is essentially a chamber-sized more intimate Americana score without jazz elements, paving the way for scores like A Patch of Blue.


If you're talking about scores that started trends you might also add Shaft to your list.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

One that I missed from my quick list was Psycho.

And perhaps To Kill a Mockingbird, because it is essentially a chamber-sized more intimate Americana score without jazz elements, paving the way for scores like A Patch of Blue.


One thing I thought to mention, though you had a great preface of "of things already mentioned," was that I'd replace Bullitt with Psycho, personally.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

A very good list of great scores, indeed.

But, pardon me for asking, what influences did those scores have on other scores? What are the results of the influences?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

five to seven are "influential"

This is a golden age list nothing more, ET looks like an insert

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)


Off the top of my head, influential film scores that affected trends include, in addition to the few already mentioned:

Citizen Kane
The Bride of Frankenstein
A Streetcar Named Desire
The Man with the Golden Arm
Goldfinger
A Fistful of Dollars
Bullitt
Star Wars
Chariots of Fire
Midnight Express


This is an insanely concise and well-thought list.


Hmmm I would dare say that Chariots and Midnight Express only had limited appeal insofar as their impact on other scores. They were very popular at the time but I'm not sure how far reaching their sound was into the 80s and beyond.

I would swap out Bride of Frankenstein for Alexander Nevsky which influenced a whole bunch of composers decades past its original release.

The rest of the list is solid however. Really solid.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2023 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

There are more influential scores in the 80s than in any other period

 
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