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 Posted:   Jun 6, 2023 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Can anyone explain this? Music from TAS appeared in Lassie's Rescue Rangers a year before TAS aired according to Wiki. So was this music original composed for LRR and tracked into TAS or is it the other way around?

This is season one/episode two. So presumably predates TAS.
Start at 2:25



Lassie's Rescue Rangers aired from 1972 to 1973
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lassie%27s_Rescue_Rangers

Star Trek TAS aired from 1973 to 1974
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Animated_Series

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2023 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

it doesn't sound exactly the same to me. Hard to tell with the editing that may have happened.

My guess is that was a cue the producers liked and had Ray Ellis re-record it with a (slightly) larger orchestra in Norway when they did Trek.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2023 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Is that Doug McClure as the dad (in likeness, not voice)?

Re-recorded or not, it's the same music at 2:36-2:55, so the simple explanation is TAS was not all-new music.


 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2023 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I remember the same music playing years later in Tarzan, Lord of the Jungle (TV Series 1976-1978)

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2023 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

Those producers reused music extensively from show to show. I was first introduced to a lot of the Trek music in "Space Academy" and "Jason Of Star Command."

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2023 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I hope LLL or someone in the know can comment. Because if the music was indeed written for LRR then its really not "Star Trek" music but tracked music in TAS. I think that's an important distinction.

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2023 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I’m pretty sure when TAS was released (pieced together from stems by Neil Bulk; they had no recording sessions or even written material about it), Lukas made some public comments in the thread with more details — basically that while a lot of the music in the half hour LLL program was written specifically for the series, some of the most well-known and often used music was incorporated from earlier Filmation shows.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2023 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Interesting piece of Star Trek music history.

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2023 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

The IMDB and Wikipedia say this episode aired September 22, 1973 which is two weeks after the debut of TAS.

Keep in mind we never found any scoring documentation for this series and the scores were entirely restored from the edited episode music stems. This means we don't have recording dates or logs. As it was all library music anyway, it doesn't surprise me that it wound up in other Filmation productions.

Neil

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2023 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

@ Neil- Thanks for chiming in! Maybe I'm confusing production date with air date.

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2023 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

The TAS parts are still Star Trek music to me, even if they were just Filmation library music.

TOS used only its own music, and nobody else used it, but that's not the only way to play the game. Lost in Space got a tremendous early boost from Bernard Herrmann. How about that jetpack?

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2023 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)





I must give props to this.
It is one of my favorite lines out of any and all of the Apes films.

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2023 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

The TAS parts are still Star Trek music to me, even if they were just Filmation library music.

TOS used only its own music, and nobody else used it, but that's not the only way to play the game. Lost in Space got a tremendous early boost from Bernard Herrmann. How about that jetpack?


LIS had nothing on Voyage and The Time Tunnel. Both of those shows pillaged the Fox music library for scores and often swapped cues. Voyage music wound up on Time Tunnel and vice versa. Some LIS music was on Time Tunnel as well.

 
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