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 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

I’m sitting here with my finger hovering over the purchase button for The Matrix Deluxe Deluxe Deluxe version.

I love film music.....don’t get me wrong. But I also have so much of it now. Is having the Matrix Deluxe Deluxe Deluxe version going to make me hear stuff I didn’t hear in the Deluxe Deluxe version? [I really want to hear from others on this question]

Maybe not.

Is it tugging at my collector mentality? Absolutely.

I will still absolutely buy more Star Wars (the original trilogy), Superman, Indiana Jones....the scores I grew up with.....over and over and over again.

Do I need more stuff in the - 'I don’t mind this score but it doesn’t blow me away’ category? Probably not.

We live in great times - scores we thought would never be released get released. Then expanded. Then re-released with improved sound. It’s breaking my bank account.

For those who are only starting out in this great film score adventure.....you lucky bastards. You have so much to choose from.

Maybe I’m just getting older and wiser. I own pretty good versions of nearly everything I love.
I guess I could die happy with what I own. The only score I would want on CD (which will never happen) is the Ray Ellis Spiderman TV score.


Oh....and I ended up buying The Matrix Deluxe Deluxe Deluxe edition. Stupid collector mentality.


Thank you all and goodnight

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I don't really "double dip" anymore. If I'm pleased with the first purchase, I have no need to "upgrade" in most cases. There are exceptions, though. The NfN release of RAIN MAN was so much better than the abysmal-sounding first release that I had to re-buy it. But it would have to be extreme cases like that. Expansions hold zero interest to me, so they are automatically disqualified. An exception is if the first release was a "songtrack" with a single score cut or two, and a score-only release is released later on.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 7:01 AM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

Rick, I know the feeling, you're not alone.

Hmmm, now if I could only find Zimmer's 'The Lone Ranger' ?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I am kinda tired of it too. I am finding myself agreeing with Thor, yeah, it does happen.
The only worse than score multi releases is the 5-6-7, dozens of releases of movies on disc.
It has gotten absurd.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

I kept the original 1980s Varese CD of The Fury because I did not like the "brickwalling" on the CD Club release. I also kept the original Star Wars since Williams' original program is different.

Otherwise, I don't keep old ones. The Bond reissues all have better sound than the originals, so I gave the old ones to my friend's son. Also gave him the older releases of Raiders, First Blood, Star Trek: TMP, Clash of the Titans, Dances with Wolves, etc. Who has room for all those? eek

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


The only worse than score multi releases is the 5-6-7, dozens of releases of movies on disc.
It has gotten absurd.


Yeah, I don't even pay attention to all the different versions. Not worth my time and effort to figure out all the special features or difference between programs. I just find the cheapest Blu Ray/Digital Copy combo and buy that.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Do I need more stuff in the - 'I don’t mind this score but it doesn’t blow me away’ category? Probably not.


I've cut way back, especially on all the Varese Goldsmith expansions as of late. Just not into 90's Goldsmith all that much. If I had the extra cash I'd purchase them and add to my collection, but they're not scores I'll spin a lot anymore.

But then there are holy grail's, I'll repurchased Secret of NIMH for the 5th time for a few minutes of extra music!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

I think for “Twister” I ended up buying 3 of the same of the LLL release. That was such a sought after score because the original score was very hard to find and extremely expensive if you ever got your hands on it. So I just went crazy without thinking it through.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I will double dip if the expansion or mastering is substantial. I feel no guilt for that.

I will only triple dip if its a score I love. Star Wars, Baby: Secret Of The Lost Legend, Rambo 2, etc. If its iconic to *me*, then its worth getting the best copy possible.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

I have double dipped plenty of times. Triple, quadruple, no. If I don’t listen to the CD as much and I know I am content with the release, make a copy of it on a CDR and get rid of it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

Triple dipping actually saved me some shelf space. I bought the FSM Blue Box solely for the first score. Now that I have the LLL edition of Superman I can get rid of the FSM box.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I multiple-dip all the time and always keep the old editions.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

I do triple and quadruple dip a lot on movies. Hmmmm, Back To the Future DVD, then 25th anniversary DVD, to Blu Ray and now 35th Anniversary 4K. And now Indiana Jones. I need some self control for the movies.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Buttons   (Member)

I rarely double dip on score CDs. So far I've only done it for Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. I do plan on double dipping on LaLaLand's Home Alone set once it's repressed later this year because it's one of my favorites. For some reason I sold Danny Elfman's Sleepy Hollow so I just purchased Intrada's expanded release which I wouldn't have done if I still had the original.

I've been tempted to pick up all of the expanded John William's scores, but can't get myself to do it. I don't need an extra 10 minutes of score or whatever. The liner notes and amazing artwork that the soundtrack labels put out make it harder to resist. I keep thinking about purchasing LaLaLand's Danny Elfman Batman set even though I have the two original albums that have plenty of music on them.

Adding up my soundtrack purchases in the past 12 months and I've spent close to $1,200 on CDs from Intrada, Screen Archives, Movie Music, Varese, and LaLaLand. That was for scores I DIDN'T own in any form. Can't imagine how expensive it gets for people that buy every single iteration of a score.

My main philosophy has been use my money to buy music I haven't heard before. The only sucky thing about that is I have really old CDs of my favorite composers like Horner and Williams that have hideous artwork and no liner notes and sometimes bad sound.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I multiple-dip all the time and always keep the old editions.

Often, but not always. I also keep the odd old edition, but only if there is material that can't be found on the re-issue, or if the liner notes justify it. That's one of the major reasons I find it difficult to part with some old FSM editions.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

I multi-dip and I keep the old editions.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I have five versions of The Empire Strikes Back. (Anthology, 2-CD re-release, original CD release, high-res download of the 2-LP set from HDtracks, and the Gerhardt recording.) If ever we get a release of the complete score in stellar sound (and with alternates indexed in their own section instead of tacked onto the beginnings of other cues) I'll gladly sextuple dip.

If you know the movie well enough to remember the music that's missing as you listen to the deluxe release, I'd go for it. If not, no big deal.

As I tell people mulling over similar questions: If it's not a visceral, instant yes, it's a no.

In other news, I used the new release and the deluxe release to replicate the original 1999 Matrix album since I never got around to buying it. I'm that person. It's now in my iTunes library and burnt to a CD-R on top of the deluxe Matrix disc in its case. Just like the 2-LP presentation of Empire is on top of the original CD issue of the score. (I STILL want to know why the 2-LP program wasn't put on the original CD release).

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

The one that really started killing my love of amassing a film score collection was the wave of "Exclusive Tracks" back in the early 2000s. iTunes Only Casino Royal, Target and Best Buy versions of Attack of the Clones (I think it was that one) with different content.
The Quintuple Dipping is a drag though for sure. It really put a damper on my desire to buy knowing that at some point in the foreseeable future the Extra Super Deluxe version was coming. The third, fourth and beyond versions just made me feel like I was being punished for my previous purchases.

People were SO adverse to streaming services at first and being charged a monthly subscription but as far as I saw it, the music industry as a whole with the constant wave of "Remastered Versions" had already been moving to a subscription model for years anyway.

If Varese, Intrada or LLL ever started their own subscription service, for the right price I'd sign up in a heartbeat.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   ClaytonMG   (Member)

I do triple and quadruple dip a lot on movies. Hmmmm, Back To the Future DVD, then 25th anniversary DVD, to Blu Ray and now 35th Anniversary 4K. And now Indiana Jones. I need some self control for the movies.

Yeah but the picture and audio improvements on these make them no brainers! wink

I do find myself doing multi-dips for movies more than CDs. But if a CD gets a new release with extra music over the previous edition, I'll likely get it. But there are some that I am on the fence about (Batman/Batman Returns and Home Alone are perfect examples of this). Maybe I'll get the most up to date versions someday, but maybe not.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2021 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

My old favorite cereal, Cocoa Krispies now carries a flash on the front of the packet, "Now With More Cocoa". I bought it last week for the first time in years, to try it out. Going from memory, I didn't notice much of a change, but I enjoyed it well enough. If I go to buy another packet, and there isn't the "More Cocoa" flash on the front, I probably won't buy it because I'll assume it's the "old" recipe and I'll wait for the "new" version to appear on shelf again.

It's not much different to telling Jerry Goldsmith collectors that the latest version of a soundtrack CD has a new ingredient (say, an additional alternative version of a track or two). Or it's labeled as "remastered" which folks automatically assume means better. Obviously, if new elements are found or suchlike, we can enjoy much-improved releases of treasured scores. But even more likely, as I have discovered countless times, descriptions like "remastered" or "expanded" are just the soundtrack equivalent of "Now With More Cocoa".

 
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