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 Posted:   Apr 4, 2021 - 9:41 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

So I'm watching Space 1999 and noticed they don't sound British. I know the two main stars are American but the rest of the cast are British, no? And it was filmed in England.

Watch Doctor Who, or any other British Sci Fi and you can easily pick up British dialect. If I didn't know any better I'd say 1999 was a US production, which of course it wasn't.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2021 - 11:46 PM   
 By:   scrumpl   (Member)

I think Sylvia Anderson herself stated in several interviews that she always went for the "transatlantic" sound, particularly in the days of the puppet shows. Hence the large number of Canadians and some Australians who appeared (or did voices) in their shows. Australian actor Nick Tate was a co star in Space 1999

Plus with all the ITC shows made by Lew Grade in the 1960's - it was a given that the series would have to be sold to the American market, so a kind of "non-specific" voice was needed.

And maybe when Space 1999 was filmed in 1974 - they just assumed that in 25 years, corporations would be multinational?

Perhaps

Steve in Australia

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2021 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

That makes a lot of sense. Unlike Doctor Who which was decidedly "British", Space 1999 was intended for an international audience. I believe they saw it as a replacement for Star Trek in the US. I didn't know Nick Tate was Australian. I just assumed everyone else on the series were British.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2021 - 6:55 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I think most others on it were British. But like has been said it's an ITC and Gerry Anderson thing just to make the shows more acceptable to US networks. Even as a pre-teen I could tell what was going on. These shows all had that mid-atlantic feel.

Mind, I did wonder if 'Brit' was some sort of language when I first saw the thread title...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2021 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I want to know why they didn't use puppets on Space:1999. Did they really think it would be better with live human actors?

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2021 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I think most others on it were British. But like has been said it's an ITC and Gerry Anderson thing just to make the shows more acceptable to US networks. Even as a pre-teen I could tell what was going on. These shows all had that mid-atlantic feel.

Mind, I did wonder if 'Brit' was some sort of language when I first saw the thread title...


Well its really fascinating to learn the different philosophy and approach BBC and ITC productions took. I never thought about it before.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2021 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)


Plus with all the ITC shows made by Lew Grade in the 1960's - it was a given that the series would have to be sold to the American market, so a kind of "non-specific" voice was needed.



This. Lew Grade was always keen to sell his series to American networks where the BBC was like US shows in that they made them for their own home audiences. Aside from a few popular exceptions, BBC shows were unseen by US audiences until the 70's and 80's. Once the (non ITC) series The Avengers was filmed and sent over, it was a "little" less British, but still more than the ITC shows.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

There's a free streaming service called "Stirr", its got a dedicated "Space 1999 channel" and it plays the series 24/7.

Been watching a few episodes a night and can't help but notice a common story thread consists of someone on Moon Base Alpha going stir crazy. big grin Hell, it was even in the pilot episode!

I hate how they cut the command center in half in season two. That was an awesome set. The command center in season two is so claustrophobic.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I haven't even bothered with Season 2 on Blu ray. The first season might be pretentious but it had ambition. Series 2 is just tacky looking and cheap. Adds nothing to the series and looks like a cheap copy of something else.

And yeah, the sets and everything looked so much better. In fact it still looks stunning today in my opinion.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 7:55 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

As a kid I liked series 2 better. I could hardly remember the first series (too young I suppose). I vaguely noticed Victor was missing. I loved Maya, and that was all that mattered.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

At the right age I can see a kid liking Season 2 better. Mind, I was 12 when it started! But I love Barry Gray's music and the whole Gerry Anderson feel. It lost that for me with Season 2, and of course we know why. But still....

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

From my recollection season one ratings weren't good in the States. So they decided they needed a "Spock" like alien character to hook the audiences with. Thus they wrote Maya into the series.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I have zero recollection of Season 2. Not sure why.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I hate how they cut the command center in half in season two. That was an awesome set. The command center in season two is so claustrophobic.


Agreed. But they had to do it. Year 2 had a lower budget, and one way they saved money was by moving to a smaller sound stage. You can even see the floor space reduction in the Eagle interior: they eliminated the connecting module between the cockpit and passenger compartment. It defied the miniature, but what can you do?

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Actually, according to ITC publicity, they raised the budget.

SPACE:1999, the spectacular space science fiction series, starring Martin Landau and Barbara Bain, will have a record budget of $7,200,000 for the second year, it was announced by Abe Mandell, president of Independent Television Corporation, an ATV Company.

To make SPACE: 1999 even better, more thrilling and more entertaining for its second year, Mandell said "We have boosted our budget from the first year high of $6,500,000 to an unprecedented $7,200,000 for the second year."


Since it's not that high of a boost, I'm sure general inflation took up some of it. Nobody got raises (unless Landau and Bain got them and kept it quiet). Freiberger wanted the main control room set to be more intimate.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Max Bellochio   (Member)

That makes a lot of sense. Unlike Doctor Who which was decidedly "British", Space 1999 was intended for an international audience. I believe they saw it as a replacement for Star Trek in the US. I didn't know Nick Tate was Australian. I just assumed everyone else on the series were British.

I'm pretty sure that actor Barry Morse (from T.V's THE FUGITIVE with David Jansen) was Canadian. One thing is for sure, I remember watching it on New York City WPIX Channel 11 as a kid back in 1975/76 thinking that this was a replacement for STAR TREK. STAR TREK reruns were also broadcast on WPIX at 6pm nightly on the channel.

Very
MaxB

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)



https://www.gerryanderson.co.uk/thespace1999metamorphosis/

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

As much as I love Barry Gray's music, Space 1999 is my least favourite of all the music I have of him. That gets even stronger when contrasted to Wadsworth's music which I absolutely love. There are sections in the soundtrack that are truly stunning.

Oh and talking about stunning, the first season command center was too. With Koenig's room on its own already a thing of beauty.

D.S.

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2021 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Barry Gray's music is so great in the episodes but can be a bit sleepy on album, depending on my mood. Wadworth's scores are frequently over the top in the episodes but are dynamite on album. That's my experience, anyway.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2021 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)

So I'm watching Space 1999 and noticed they don't sound British. I know the two main stars are American but the rest of the cast are British, no? And it was filmed in England.

Watch Doctor Who, or any other British Sci Fi and you can easily pick up British dialect. If I didn't know any better I'd say 1999 was a US production, which of course it wasn't.


Solium, that's a good question. But I also have a question as I used to watch this on Saturday afternoons

Now, correct me if I'm wrong but why did they whisper so much? Especially Barbara Bain? Or if not whispering, speak so low?

 
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