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 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

My, those were the days…. London, August 17 and 18, 1989…. A Jerry Goldsmith double feature! First, an hour-long BBC radio concert in that rather (from what little I remember) small studio filled to the brim with about 100 (?) people … an hour of great film music played live, and that was just "part 1"! And, one day later, the grand concert in the huge Barbican Hall – something like this just won't happen anymore!

I still remember Jerry hastily entering a taxi at the BBC studio, making his way through all the fans outside, his white hair sticking out in the already dark street, away to his hotel, probably - where nobody knew him, I guess!

And then the Barbican concert - all that great film music played live by the freakin' LSO to a packed hall – several hundred people, I guess… with the maestro entertaining the audience with anecdotes and trivia between the pieces.

Who was there with me? Who remembers anything from that memorable night 31 years ago?

The only thing I can say is that I'll forever have the "questionable" :-) honor of having been thrown out of a concert hall by Jerry Goldsmith himself!!

We had already been at the Barbican in the afternoon and could somehow sneak into the empty hall to witness the rehearsals from high up. This lasted for about five or ten minutes, I faintly remember, before Jerry noticed us and shouted up to have us removed by an usher! Oh dear, I felt so embarrassed!!!!! Me, disturbing the great Mr. Goldsmith from perfecting his music performance for that evening….

Any more stories to share here…?

BTW: Who could forget that classic Jerry Goldsmith score to PATTEN? (see first ticket upper right corner)















 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)



I was there with my best friend Simon White (who I have lost touch with, so if he is reading this please contact me). I do remember the music pretty well - I especially remember liking Star Trek. We were not thrown out by Jerry, but Simon did get his autograph. Also the Australian journalist Clive James (who lived in the Barbican) was sitting next to our table at the Barbican restaurant before the concert.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I probably attended that one. I always went whenever I could. Trouble is, it's getting to be so far back in time the details get blurred. In fact, I had such a hazy memory of one of the events - it wasn't until Graham pointed out that it was the BBC studios the penny dropped and I remembered, "oh yeah, I was there." Like the drunk who periodically pops up, does a slurred 360, then plops back down in a heap.

We know from Lukas JG had something of an aversion to fanboys. There was the Barbican concert where a pre-concert talk had been arranged but, being a bookworm I became lost amongst the shelves at Foyles when I looked at my watch and suddenly realised I was ever so late for a most important date. It takes at least a half hour to get to the Barbican at flank speed from Charing Cross Road. Still, I managed to get to the destination just before the talk ended. As I opened the doors to the auditorium, the host and Goldsmith were wrapping up their talk, having been slightly jarred by the noisy arrival of a 'fanboy.'

When I saw the crowd in actual attendance appeard to be so thin on the ground, the thought later occurred to me that in view of the fact so few people were actually there to begin with, maybe if I had arrived on time I could have put my hand up and with a sweat-filled brow suggested we make the session less formal, close up into a tight circle and make it a more personable free for all question and answer session. Can you imagine how Jerry Goldsmith would have reacted to a fanboy agenda setting out an ad-hoc film-score discussion at a venue like that?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

afn - You make it sound like both concerts were on the same night... As your stubs n' ads show, they were two consecutive nights, the BBC Maida Vale one on the Thursday, the Barbican one on the Friday. I much preferred the Maida Vale shirt sleeves and suspenders (tee hee) one. The Barbican concert was too grandmother-friendly, and Jerry never looked at ease as the white-suited superstar.

Kev McGann was there too, dressed as Marty McFly.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I saw him in November 1990 in Toronto with the TSO performing the same programme. It was phenomenal.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

Oh God.... 31 years are taking their toll on my memory... is there a stone I can hide under? It was two nights....yes, but everything else is true! :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Pre-ponytail?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Did he have a ponytail?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Did he have a ponytail?

No, this was just prior to that period. This was from his "silver crash helmet" era.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I was there at the Barbican concert - the first film music concert I ever went to. And they were broadcast so I have recordings of both :-)

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I listened to it live on BBC Radio 2.

I still remember this bit:

JG: "Is anyone here a Star Trek fan?"

Crowd cheers.

JG: "Well I'm not one!"

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Did he have a ponytail?

No, this was just prior to that period. This was from his "silver crash helmet" era.


That was a much better look, kind of along the lines of Peter Graves in the mid-1970s.

Did I tell you that there is a stunning mid-century modern house in our neighborhood that has fallen on hard times? Ms. Birri has a fantasy that it will be purchased by Peter Graves as he looked in the 1970s. We imagine going for walks in the neighborhood, and Peter Graves is in the yard watering the lawn. He is wearing a two-piece cabana outfit, similar to that worn by the 1960 Ken doll. He is holding a garden hose in one hand, and a highball glass with Scotch in the other. Or, as Mr. Phelps prefers, bourbon. We wave to Peter Graves, and he raises his glass to us in a toast.

It is a reassuring image in these uncertain times.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

Ahhh the GOOD TIMES the BEST of TIMES!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Illustrator   (Member)

I listened to it live on BBC Radio 2.

I still remember this bit:

JG: "Is anyone here a Star Trek fan?"

Crowd cheers.

JG: "Well I'm not one!"

Cheers


Haha, Dad and I were at the Barbican concert, Mum recorded it from Radio 2 at home and still have the CD I made from that. I think the subsequent broadcast of the Maida Vale concert was just highlights but the content of that show was the some ballsy stuff, wish they'd broadcast it complete or would rebroadcast it. If anyone at the BBC knows if its still in the archives. if only the Goldsmith Society in the UK could release it.

Best.
James

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   AlainC   (Member)

Maida Vale studio 1989 !!

I was there too. I remembered this as very moving : Franklin J Schaffner passed away one month before (July 1989)

I also remembered Sydney Sax NPO leader sat in front of me in London Underground after the concert

I was at Barbican Hall also

Marvellous marvellous memories...


 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Yes, where is that old thread where we all spoke about this? I was living in Ealing at the time, and my brother came down from Scroteland to stay with me for a long weekend, so that we could get the two concerts in.

The Maida Vale one was fantastic. Informal, "school chairs", Jerry G in shirtsleeves and colourful suspenders (it wasn't being televised), and seemingly informal. My brother and I were about four yards/meters from him. A great selection, powerfully performed. I remember that JG stopped a piece (maybe WILD ROVERS) half-way through, because of a bum note. He asked for it to be redone from the start, knowing that it would be edited before the radio broadcast. Splendid stuff such as the battle music from THE BLUE MAX which would have had the spinsters in a twirl of knitting. And yes, as was previously mentioned, it was a very emotional moment when he spoke about the then recent death of Franklin Schaffner. JG was on the verge of tears. He was noticeably almost having trouble breathing...but that might have been due to a mixture of emotion, strenuous conducting and cigarette smoking.

Now, I'm not sure if it was after the Maida Vale concert or the Barbican one, but I remember that all the fanboys went down into a kind of basement area where there were a lot of LPs on sale. I don't recall buying anything, but I did notice a lot of people wearing Parkas, and the smell of unwashed trainers was unbearable. I remember reading in the other thread where we talked about this that Kev McGann claimed to be wearing Marty McFly gear, thus singling himself out from the rest of the fashion losers.

I also recall waiting in the hall that led out to the street, because I knew that that's where JG would have to pass through to get to his taxi. I think we were all bundled out into the road anyway in the end, but I got a good look at him as he got into the taxi. He didn't even recognise me.

The next night was the Barbican. Did Clive James really "live" there, Mark? Anyway, it was a disappointment for me after the Maida Vale gig. Jerry Goldsmith looked so ill-at-ease in that white suit, as if he were some kind of Mancini-like public figure. I think he was uncomfortable with that. The concert itself seemed bloated and spinster-friendly. No really challenging material, and blandly assembled. I liked the part when JG dismissed half of the orchestra so that he could get a more intimate sound for "The Artist Who Did Not Want To Paint" - perhaps his crowning achievement.

I actually don't remember if there were any post-concert events. It wasn't the norm, was it? I think I just went to the pub (if there were any still open).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Haha, yes Graham, I would have been stumbling around in jeans and white baseball boots, some rock T-shirt and denim jacket, no doubt resembling Michael J Fox from that film (apparently around that age, i was likened to either Fox or Matthew Broderick)
It was a fantastic concert with much better stuff in the programme, compared to the Barbican gig (which was also great).
I wouldn't have been stumbling around with the smelly Parka Brigade though, as I wouldn't have wanted anything signing and I wouldn't have brought anything TO sign in the first place!
How cool was I? wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Mine was a couple of years earlier. I have photos somewhere.

The Film Music Of Jerry Goldsmith
The Barbican Centre, London
March 10th, 1987
The Philharmonia Orchestra

Star Trek: The Motion Picture
The Sand Pebbles
Chinatown
A Patch Of Blue
Poltergeist
Papillon
The Wind And The Lion
Rambo
The Blue Max

Gremlins
Islands In The Stream
Lionheart
The Man From U.N.C.L.E.
Dr Kildare
Room 222
The Waltons
Barnaby Jones
MacArthur
Patton

My friends and I went backstage to try to get an autograph. Jerry was mobbed, and looked exhausted after a very boisterous concert, but he signed for a few. Like a fool, I presented him with the sleeve of my "Legend" vinyl Filmtrax release (I knew his music had been replaced in the U.S. but I just loved that score, and still do!). Jerry stopped signing and he was hurried away.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Hello, DP. That was my first ever mission to the concert hall. Don't have to try too hard to remember that. I took my sister and my dad with me on that premier film music concert.

The easiest nugget was that The Marlin was on the course from Islands In The Stream and I recollect JG saying that it was one of his longest pieces, outside of The Artist Who Did Not Want To Paint. A ten minute replay of what was, reputedly, his favorite own goal. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2020 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

I remember both concerts very well!

Both completely different programmes played by two different major London orchestras!

 
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