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 Posted:   Sep 6, 2015 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

This is being released in a week and is there a possibility of a real CD release too of this score?

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2015 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Would be TERRIFIC if a CD release would come. With extensive liner notes from Pat Leonard and director James Foley of course.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2015 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

We don't know yet if this is trully an isolated score or a music + SFX track until someone gets the disc and confirms it.
I remember asking TT about it, and they said they're working on it (they weren't sure at the time if it'll include SFX or not).
So, if this does include SFX, it will more than likely mean that the master tapes have been lost, and a cd release won't be possible.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2015 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Would be TERRIFIC if a CD release would come. With extensive liner notes from Pat Leonard and director James Foley of course.

What if it comes out on CD, but only has one archived quote from each of them? Would you not buy it?

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2015 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Would be TERRIFIC if a CD release would come. With extensive liner notes from Pat Leonard and director James Foley of course.

What if it comes out on CD, but only has one archived quote from each of them? Would you not buy it?


Of course, but I don't think any label would be as stupid as not contacting the composer and director to get a solid booklet for their release. I'm sure Leonard and Foley would be happy to be in the project.

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2015 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

We don't know yet if this is trully an isolated score or a music + SFX track until someone gets the disc and confirms it.
I remember asking TT about it, and they said they're working on it (they weren't sure at the time if it'll include SFX or not).
So, if this does include SFX, it will more than likely mean that the master tapes have been lost, and a cd release won't be possible.


it says it will be isolated score which must mean that the score is isolated from the rest (dialogue and SFX) otherwise it is false advertisment...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 11:03 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

We don't know yet if this is trully an isolated score or a music + SFX track until someone gets the disc and confirms it.
I remember asking TT about it, and they said they're working on it (they weren't sure at the time if it'll include SFX or not).
So, if this does include SFX, it will more than likely mean that the master tapes have been lost, and a cd release won't be possible.


it says it will be isolated score which must mean that the score is isolated from the rest (dialogue and SFX) otherwise it is false advertisment...


The Remains of the day also said isolated score, but it was really the album cues edited, and cues with SFX for the unreleased music.
That's why I'm waiting for someone to confirm if this is indeed a real isolated score.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Really? What a strange thing to do.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   McD   (Member)

I actually just watched this film again a few weeks ago. It was interesting to note that two of the first three people credited at the end were Madonna. Who had not been involved in the body of the film one bit, save for banging the star. She probably owns every note of the music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I actually just watched this film again a few weeks ago. It was interesting to note that two of the first three people credited at the end were Madonna. Who had not been involved in the body of the film one bit, save for banging the star. She probably owns every note of the music.

Pat Leonard probably owns just as much as Madonna.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

It's a great song, and I love every time the notes pop up in the score.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   McD   (Member)

It's a great song, and I love every time the notes pop up in the score.

It's great musically, but I've always been struck by the sexism in the lyrics. 'A man can tell a thousand lies...' But what about the bitches, Madge, what about the bitches?

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Isn't Madonna singing as the voice inside Sean Penn's head?

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Granted, I haven't seen the movie since VHS, and when I think about the score, it has all the tracking bends and tape pops in there.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Isn't Madonna singing as the voice inside Sean Penn's head?

Basically, yes. The song is from the Penn character's POV and it's all about the relationship with the Walken character ("a man can tell a thousand lies, I've learned my lesson well"). It's told in that moment after the father has murdered his girlfriend, brother and friends and tried to murder him.

Normally I wouldn't bother to invisotext plot points from a thirty year old movie, but I don't know if many people here have seen it and it's well worth a look, if for no other reason than to hear Leonard's brilliant score in context. I'm more and more convinced it's one of the best (or at least most underrated) scores of the 80's.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

You have invisotext? You must be RICH! Also, wouldn't it be great if he recorded the score onto VHS tapes and that's why it's been such a pain to release? I'll see myself out.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   McD   (Member)

I always assumed the song had nothing to do with the movie, and the two things were just lumped in together at the last minute (although Leonard obviously used it extensively for the score).

I did know that Live To Tell was the title track for the new Madonna album, as planned and announced for some time, and then it was suddenly downgraded (I thought thanks to this) to just another track on the album which then focussed on something else.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Yeah, the song was written for a different movie, but it was so good that this is how Leonard ended up scoring At Close Range. Something like that.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Yeah, the song was written for a different movie, but it was so good that this is how Leonard ended up scoring At Close Range. Something like that.

Huh. Oh well. It might really have helped give some gravitas to SHANGHAI SURPRISE.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2015 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Yeah, the song was written for a different movie, but it was so good that this is how Leonard ended up scoring At Close Range. Something like that.

Source?

 
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