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Am I the only person who really likes this Goldsmith theme FAR better in this score than either Gladiator before it or The Vanishing after it?
Nope -- you're not absolutely alone, Yavar, since I don't care for GLADIATOR or THE VANISHING at all, yet am delighted with THE PUBLIC EYE on just two listens. And I was full of advance doubt because I didn't like any earlier rejected Goldsmith score (I don't include LEGEND, which was replaced only for the U.S. and Canada, not tossed globally). So no ALIEN NATION or 2 DAYS IN THE VALLEY for me, either.
But PUBLIC EYE, with that insistent presence of double bass, sustains a wonderful atmosphere that reminds me of the dread-and-suspense material in THE RUSSIA HOUSE. I can't read the booklet notes yet because I never saw the picture, though I now want very much to watch it to appreciate Goldsmith's narrative intentions.
However, PUBLIC EYE pulled me in too deeply to recognize the link you have made with THE SHADOW. That's intriguing; so I'll try again.
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I can't read the booklet notes yet because I never saw the picture...
You're safe to read the notes. Frank DeWald made a point of not referring to the movie, and just goes over the music itself - quite nicely, I'll add.
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Nope -- you're not absolutely alone, Yavar, since I don't care for GLADIATOR or THE VANISHING at all, yet am delighted with THE PUBLIC EYE on just two listens.
Yeah I actually like Gladiator and The Vanishing well enough, but I admit they are among my less-played Goldsmith scores. The Public Eye just clicked with me immediately on a first listen.
And I was full of advance doubt because I didn't like any earlier rejected Goldsmith score (I don't include LEGEND, which was replaced only for the U.S. and Canada, not tossed globally). So no ALIEN NATION or 2 DAYS IN THE VALLEY for me, either.
I'm kinda surprised you don't care for the latter; it's not as memorable and unified as score as The Public Eye but I think it's solid modern noir music and I dig it. So are you saying that some of Goldsmith's later rejected scores (like Timeline) you do like?
But PUBLIC EYE, with that insistent presence of double bass, sustains a wonderful atmosphere that reminds me of the dread-and-suspense material in THE RUSSIA HOUSE. I can't read the booklet notes yet because I never saw the picture, though I now want very much to watch it to appreciate Goldsmith's narrative intentions.
I think you'll really enjoy the soon-to-be-published Soundtrack Spotlight podcast on this, because I similarly made a connection to The Russia House in it too!
However, PUBLIC EYE pulled me in too deeply to recognize the link you have made with THE SHADOW. That's intriguing; so I'll try again.
Ooh, let me know if you hear it. It struck me immediately, perhaps because The Shadow is such a favorite score of mine. If you continue to have trouble hearing it I'll get you exact timestamps to compare.
Yavar
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Hey, we're finally up with our Spotlight on this one. You can hear lots more of the score (often under our talking, but you can still hear it quite well). We've got 8 new Goldsmith CDs in a 12 week period, so I understand being selective, but I hope those in doubt about this one might get a better feel for the whole thing here, because it's is an unearthed gem, for me, and the true home for that theme that started in Gladiator, then ended up in The Vanishing. That's the heart of this score, but the music is also thoughtful. It does not sound like, but often feels like, the contemplative parts of the Medicine Man score. It's a really good album to just let play.
https://www.buzzsprout.com/159614/episodes/8759839
The Goldsmith releases keep pouring in, which means we've got yet another Soundtrack Spotlight for you! This time, we're examining a particularly thrilling Goldsmith premiere: Intrada's new release of the rejected score for the 1992 film The Public Eye. Your humble hosts Yavar and David are joined by the album's liner notes writer Frank DeWald, who analyzes the score from a purely musical perspective, and Intrada's Douglass Fake, who provides some thoughts on how the music might have worked in relation to the film for which it was written. Among the other topics of discussion: the contrasts between Goldsmith's music and Mark Isham's replacement score, the distinctive instrumental choices (eliminating brass, while employing double bass, triangle, and light electronic touches) Goldsmith made on this score, Frank's approach to writing liner notes, the other Goldsmith efforts this score's main theme has appeared in, what we know about why the score was rejected, and more. As usual, you'll hear plenty of illustrative excerpts from the new album along the way. This is music that will be brand-new to most Goldsmith fans, so don't miss this revealing snapshot of an important new release!
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Does no one hear Psycho 2 in this ?( Tr. 1. at 1mn for starters)
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Haven't touched the vanishing in ages.
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If it's worth mentioning... I loved immeasurably THE PUBLIC EYE, but at the same time I hated SHAMUS.
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If it's worth mentioning... I loved immeasurably THE PUBLIC EYE, but at the same time I hated SHAMUS.
I wish The Public Eye was good. Unfortunately, I think they were right to drop it.
I wish I had gotten Two Days in the Valley all those years ago…
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Really like this score actually. Parts of it are very reminiscent of the badguy theme in DENNIS THE MENACE. And while I think the synthesizers don't fit the setting, they still sound cool. But in comparing this with Isham's score, I notice Goldsmith use the triangle A LOT which gives his score a bit too much of a comedic effect. It's sort of fine with the typical jazz brush drumming, but that triangle pushes it into almost neo-noir-KISS KISS BANG BANG-Shane Black territory at times.
But outside that, the score really moves along well.
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It's a cool score and interesting to hear Goldsmith use the same theme as the basis for completely different film scores. Not sure, I think I would pick GLADIATOR over THE PUBLIC EYE if I could keep only one of these unused scores, but that's just my first impression. Fortunately, I can keep both.
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Just noticed this in my regular ebay searching for low priced Intrada cds....
I clicked to see what else there might be. Given the quantity, maybe it was an online store. No so. Eve Ridda Hero seems to have a little pharmacy. And six copies of The Public Eye.
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