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 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 12:11 AM   
 By:   The Juggler   (Member)

Nobody seems to be mentioning that Doug clearly states that Jerry recycled his ideas from his rejected GLADIATOR score into this.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 1:09 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

FAN-TAS-TIC!

Thank you, INTRADA! This is just wonderful. ORDERED!

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 6:32 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I ordered this as fast as humanly possible.

Pretty good for a mutant, mutant!

Tee hee


I was slow to think I needed Shamus, but with this one too, it's a fun Goldsmith premiere two-fer. Wow, not something I would have expected to write in 2021.

Whatever one might say about familiar themes and devices, this is gonna be a sweet listen.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Am I the only one sensing some temp track bleed from the quieter moments of 48 Hrs?

Its interesting listening to the Goldsmith clips and clips from Isham back to back. Their approaches really aren't a million miles apart. Both are jazzy scores with a steady musical beat running throughout each cue. Without having seen the film, I'd tell you Isham's score was much more serious while Goldsmith's sounds rather 1992 comic-booky cartoony-noir. If the filmmakers were wanting something that treated the film more earnestly, its not hard to see why there would have been a parting of ways. Goldsmith would have had to start all over.

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

"comic-booky cartoony-noir" does not describe the complete score at all. That's just not the vibe I hear, despite the fact that one motif was later expanded on in The Shadow. If anything it's a very downbeat and "down to earth" score, almost relentlessly so. That may be why it's not for everyone, and might be why the director didn't care for it. As Frank DeWald says in the notes, it's almost Herrmannesque in the fact that the instrumental palette is "grey"; perfect for the black and white elements of the film and the main character's photography which recurs throughout it. It's not really "all one theme" but it is all one mood and feel. It's a longer score than Shamus but far less varied. The Goldsmith score I would most liken it to is The Russia House. That's another one I don't think of in terms of standouts and highlight cues, but it is cumulatively a powerful listen with a unique melancholy feel. This is like that -- it creates a certain mood that sticks with you. That's one thing it has it common with Chinatown, I guess. I know it won't be for everyone but I personally love it.

I'm curious to hear others' impressions after they hear the whole thing. Really wish we'd been able to make the Spotlight recording happen this past weekend so that folks could have heard more of the score under our discussion, beyond a few samples. Will do my best to make it happen ASAP, for those still on the fence about ordering.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

In related news, I picked up Mark Isham's used score, errrr, used on ebay for a fiver this past weekend.
I remember liking it in the film, but never got around to picking a copy up.
I've always enjoyed the film music of Mark Isham. Always something of interest going on.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

THE PUBLIC EYE even has for me, some echoes of Jerry's RENT-A-COP.

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I confess I hardly ever listen to Rent-a-Cop, zooba -- any cues/moments in particular you have in mind, from that score?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

THE PUBLIC EYE even has for me, some echoes of Jerry's RENT-A-COP.

Bullseye!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 6:03 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Intrada: The Public Eye

Advise & Consent: Bullseye!

Dr. McCoy: "In a pig's eye"

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

THE PUBLIC EYE even has for me, some echoes of Jerry's RENT-A-COP.

oh wow, hadn't thought of that!

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Just checked out the samples very carefully and I must say that I'm very impressed. Oh yeah, and I immediately ordered the CD.... yesterday. Keep those premieres coming.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I confess I hardly ever listen to Rent-a-Cop, zooba -- any cues/moments in particular you have in mind, from that score?

Yavar



Not really Yavar. From what I remember of RENT-A-COP, it just gives me that feeling. Perhaps in rhythms the most in one of the sample cues. I think it also may remind me of some of Jerry's ALIEN NATION, but to be honest I haven't listened to that and RENT-A-COP recently enough to give examples.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I confess I hardly ever listen to Rent-a-Cop, zooba -- any cues/moments in particular you have in mind, from that score?

Yavar



Not really Yavar. From what I remember of RENT-A-COP, it just gives me that feeling. Perhaps in rhythms the most in one of the sample cues. I think it also may remind me of some of Jerry's ALIEN NATION, but to be honest I haven't listened to that and RENT-A-COP recently enough to give examples.


I also enjoy RENT-A-COP, it's a laid back listen, but I like the ultra-80's feel of the main theme and the orch/synth hybrid of the score. I mean, honestly, the Goldsmith scores that I don't enjoy listening to is a pretty short list.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah I think of Rent-a-Cop as a very dated 80s sounding score, if enjoyable. The Public Eye doesn't sound dated at all, to me. There are synths throughout it but they are very subtle.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Andy   (Member)

Yavar

you should give Rent a Cop some relistening, the score grew on you,( al least for me)
i ranked it not very high on release, but for some reason ( or lack of scores that interesteed me, nostalgia,etc smile) it ranked much higher now for me.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I remember enjoying it (in a disposable way). I'll give it another listen for you though. smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I took three or four cues from "Rent-A-Cop"; the love theme/power anthem cues.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I remember enjoying it (in a disposable way). I'll give it another listen for you though. smile

Yavar


@ Yavar: Truth be told, I was rather un-impressed by the score back in the late 80's. In those days, I would order directly from Intrada, usually directly from Doug, and as was customary, Doug would refer to practically every single new Goldsmith score as either a "Masterpiece" or a "Masterwork" (not making light of Doug here, just reminiscing about old times). Of course, with such high praise, a slight "disapointment" was sure to follow.

However, I've come to appreciate Rent-A-Cop over time, and dare I say, digging many if the passages of this work. Even in a slighter mood, Jerry could write rings around the current generation of composers, something that has grown sharply in focus over the last few decades. These days, the dearth of good contemporary scores has brought a surprising (and unintended) side effect, namely: the reevaluation of less appreciated older works (and the great number of "undiscovered" gems therein, akin to a treasure hunt).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   Andy   (Member)

Hi A&C

so true, during the last 3-4 years i digitized old albums and reevaluated scores like this and had the same impression.
good example: "Take a hard ride", own all releases and like it, but now it ranks so much higher, its a pure gem and surely the album with my most relistenings in the last 3 years, so much energy and fun, there are cues that gets 3-4 repeat listenings, never had this on the first release. In fact it had something to do with more understanding and listening experience of music. in the early 90 i bought available Alex north scores, that i can gat ( luckily, only John Houstons The Dead and Prizzis Honors is missing frown , and after that , i had no connection to his music for almost 20 years, but this changed again and , what a luck, i had a chance dig in his music again and loved it again. (and missed out Intrada's "Cheyenne autumn", in my north free years frown.

 
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