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 Posted:   Apr 25, 2012 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

.....After all, the director is the Director of Photography when all is said and done.....


True today, but not true historically.

It won't be long until there is no position of cameraman on the professional film set.....and, eventually, no crew of any kind.

The director will turn the lights on in the room, handhold his 3x5 inch digital camera and shoot his film.

And then, other than the newer machinery, we'll be back to 1910 in our filmmaking.


I'm looking to hire a DP who knows how to shoot a western in the traditional way. I don't want the usual people on this project. I want someone who understands landscape and portrait photography. Any suggestions, manderley?

Richard

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2012 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   twinarchers   (Member)

Yes you are correct and I looked it up. Funny how you read something but you did not really get what you read.

Here is a link that you will all like from a fellow fan just in case you have not found it yet.
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http://amillionfeetoffilm.tumblr.com/

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.....For a film that won the Acadamy Award for its image.....


Although it was nominated for an Oscar, the photography of ONE EYED JACKS did not win its Academy Award.

I love Charles Lang's work in many, many fine films of the Golden Age, however any awards which might have been given for the photography of ONE EYED JACKS would probably have better been given to the Chief Location Scout rather than the Cameraman.

The Academy membership, particularly since the early 1950s and the extensive use of color, have always had a difficult time of ascertaining the difference between photography and scenery, with THE QUIET MAN, TO CATCH A THIEF, THREE COINS IN THE FOUNTAIN, RYAN'S DAUGHTER, THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI and others being prime examples of wins for cameramen who often did much better jobs on less geographically-spectacular films.

(Having said all this, I'd still love to see a first-class, authorized Blu-ray of OEJ from the original VistaVision elements.)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2012 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   twinarchers   (Member)

I have been watching the special features on the Blu Ray version of The Searchers. What a great film and the photography is amazing (Vistavision). Martin Scorsese points out that Vistavision was the best we have ever come out with because of the clarity etc. He says that it is hard to describe what it looked like in the movie theatres when shown with the Vistavison print and not the 35mm version. Do we know just how or why this film OYJ has that public domain stamp on it?? I must have missed it somewhere in the reading I have done on it?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2012 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Do we know just how or why this film OYJ has that public domain stamp on it?? I must have missed it somewhere in the reading I have done on it?


When the film was originally produced, it was registered for copyright not by distributor Paramount Pictures, but by Marlon Brando's production company, Pennebaker, Inc., on 31 December 1960. At that time, the length of copyright protection for films was 28 years. Apparently, when the time came to renew that copyright, it wasn't done, and so the film went into the public domain. That meant that anyone who could get a copy of a print (or the laserdisc that Paramount issued in 1994) could copy it and issue it on DVD. But even though Paramount does not have any exclusive right to release the film, they still maintain the best elements for it in their vault.

That's the common belief anyway. But it is interesting to note that the Wikipedia list of films that are in the public domain does NOT include "One-Eyed Jacks."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_in_the_public_domain_in_the_United_States#Determine_copyright_registration

And another source indicates that an application for copyright renewal WAS made. To wit:

One-eyed jacks. By Pennebaker, Inc.

Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000409372 / 1988-12-29
Renewal registration for: LP0000019590 / 1960-12-31
Title: One-eyed jacks. By Pennebaker, Inc.
Copyright Claimant: David R. Baer (PWH)
Variant title: One-eyed jacks.
Names: Baer, David R.
Pennebaker, Inc.

Other sources suggest that the person supposedly requesting that renewal, David R. Baer, doesn't exist and is a phony name under which other renewal requests have been made. On the other hand, it is also pointed out that, although the film itself may be in the public domain, certain elements of it, particularly the musical score and the underlying source novel (The Authentic Death of Hendry Jones by Charles Neider, published in 1956), remain in copyright. Thus, release of the film without permission could violate these copyrights, if someone chose to enforce them.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2013 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   adbarksdale   (Member)

I would like to see someone do a screen capture comparison of the Front Row and Brentwood with the French discs the way dvdbeaver does.

If there is an anamorphic edition I haven't seen it.

I own the laser-disc as well, but my laser-disc player crapped out long time ago and I've been unable to watch it for over a decade, hence my search for the best DVD.

Richard


Richard,
I own a couple of high end LD Pioneer Elite Players and a collection of over 800 LDs. I am interested in your One Eyed Jacks LD. I too am frustrated with the lack of a good transfer. I have about 5 versions myself. I send a letter every month to Criterion to restore this landmark film. Most people don't realize the significance of it. One, Stanley Kubrik was directing it and he and Brando disagreed on the the movie path and Kubrik flat walked away from it. Brando burned a record amount of 35MM film to get everything the way he wanted it. Perfectionist. He went way over budget and the investors pulled out. He believed in it so much, he picked up the tab and produced and directed it. It was his first stint at Directing and Starring in a feature film. Notable actors-Karl Malden, Brando, Slim Pickens...and a fantastic storyline. This film was the first I remember going to as a kid with my parents to the local theater (I was 4 years old) on a Sat night at the local theater. I didn't sleep through a bit of the entire movie. Stuck with me all these years. Criterion should do it. We need lots of people to write them and rattle their chain on it. It would be better than some of that junk they are doing of late. Feel free to contact me if you like.
Thanks
AD

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2013 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I'm surprised that Olive Films hasn't released a Blu-ray of ONE EYED JACKS. They have no problem releasing Blu-rays of John Wayne's old Republic westerns from the 1930s, but can't find room on their schedule for this?

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2014 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Cinema Retro has an interesting piece on this classic in the new issh.
The reviewer accurately states that it is a classic and most undervalued.
He also states that the best video version is still the Pioneer Laser Disc release.

Dammitt!
brm

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2014 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

Paramount did a superb job with McLintock! doing a great re-master, & that title is in the public domain, so I'm hoping that One-Eyed Jacks gets the same treatment. That's the straw I'm hanging on to. A really great looking One-Eyed Jacks has to come from Paramount as they have all the original elements.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2014 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

Warner Home Video's DVD of McLINOCK! is the restoration. The blu-ray is transferred from a different source and it's nowhere near the same ballpark. I stick with the DVD. Although ONE-EYED JACKS is in public domain, it was partly financed by Paramount and distributed by Paramount, so I don't see how Warner Home Video would have access to the elements.


I'm surprised that Olive Films hasn't released a Blu-ray of ONE EYED JACKS. They have no problem releasing Blu-rays of John Wayne's old Republic westerns from the 1930s, but can't find room on their schedule for this?


Has Olive released titles distributed by Paramount? I don't know, honestly.


Note to Ad:

Sorry I didn't see your message, posted 18 months ago, until today.

Criterion is finally releasing THE SHOOTING and RIDE IN THE WHIRLWIND in November, two westerns they've been sitting on for over a decade while public domain copies flourished. I understand the few westerns released by Criterion have been selling well. So perhaps ONE-EYED JACKS is not outside the realm of possibility. I'll carry through on your suggestion and email a request.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2014 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

Warner Home Video's DVD of McLINOCK! is the restoration. The blu-ray is transferred from a different source and it's nowhere near the same ballpark. I stick with the DVD. Although ONE-EYED JACKS is in public domain, it was partly financed by Paramount and distributed by Paramount, so I don't see how Warner Home Video would have access to the elements.


Sorry I don't understand. The DVD restoration of McLintock! came from Paramount, not Warner, & lovely job they made of it, but it was SD. The fact that they spent money to redo it in HD (another lovely job) & release a Blu-ray after Olive had released a second-rate Blu-ray (made from a couple of prints) is very commendable, that's why I hope Paramount do the same thing with One-Eyed Jacks. I don't know what Warner has to do with any of this.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2014 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Warner Home Video's DVD of McLINOCK! is the restoration. The blu-ray is transferred from a different source and it's nowhere near the same ballpark. I stick with the DVD. Although ONE-EYED JACKS is in public domain, it was partly financed by Paramount and distributed by Paramount, so I don't see how Warner Home Video would have access to the elements.


I'm not sure where you got the idea that Warner Home Video released McLintock! on DVD. It was an October 2005 release on the Paramount label. WHV has recently been distributing Paramount releases, particularly re-releases of their older pressed discs via their Warner Archive MOD service, but that started long after the Paramount DVD of McLintock! was issued.

There have been two Blu-ray releases of McLintock! The first was released by Olive Films in March 2013, and was sourced from a good-looking print. It had no special features. It seemed OK to many until the second Blu-ray was released by Paramount in May 2014. This was labeled as being sourced "From Original Film Elements" and is decidedly superior to Olive's version. It also includes all of the special features that were on the DVD version. The Paramount version even sells for less than the Olive disc. Here's the Paramount disc:

http://www.amazon.com/McLintock-Authentic-Collectors-Blu-ray-Mclintock/dp/B00IJE1C1K/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1411685399&sr=1-1&keywords=mclintock+blu

and a review of same:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/McLintock-Blu-ray/97846/#Review

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2014 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Has Olive released titles distributed by Paramount? I don't know, honestly.


Olive started out by releasing a number of Paramount catalog titles, before switching over to the Paramount-controlled Republic catalog.

Among the many Paramount titles released by Olive are:

The Atomic City (1952)
Captain Carey, U.S.A. (1950)
Escape from Zahrain (1962)
The File on Thelma Jordon (1950)
Innocent Bystanders (1972)
It's Only Money (1962)
1900 (1977)
Riot (1969)
Sands of the Kalahari (1965)
Summer and Smoke (1961)
The Trap (1959)
Up the Junction (1968)
WUSA (1970)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2014 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

As always Bob D. you are a fountain of knowledge. I really can't keep up with all these details for all these films. I momentarily confused WHV with Olive, and I didn't know that Paramount released an upgrade of McLINTOCK after Olive. When the first blu came out like many people I looked at comparisons and found the authorized DVD:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ANVPPQ/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=

from Wayne's estate and Paramount to be superior. But now I will have to get the Paramount blu.

Since Olive has released Paramount titles, I agree there's a slim chance they might release ONE-EYED JACKS. Maybe if enough people ask for it. Meanwhile, the laser-disc is still the best, and then comes Front Row Features DVD.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2014 - 11:26 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Has Olive released titles distributed by Paramount? I don't know, honestly.


Olive started out by releasing a number of Paramount catalog titles, before switching over to the Paramount-controlled Republic catalog.

Among the many Paramount titles released by Olive are:

The Atomic City (1952)
Captain Carey, U.S.A. (1950)
Escape from Zahrain (1962)
The File on Thelma Jordon (1950)
Innocent Bystanders (1972)
It's Only Money (1962)
1900 (1977)
Riot (1969)
Sands of the Kalahari (1965)
Summer and Smoke (1961)
The Trap (1959)
Up the Junction (1968)
WUSA (1970)


And "The Mountain" which I watched today.

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2014 - 2:57 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

...& Assault On A Queen 1966, that strange caper movie with Frank Sinatra. I never thought that would ever get a release, & Olive released it multi-region, something they seemed to have stopped doing now. But as I said, any decent release will come from Paramount, they won't farm that out to Olive.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2014 - 3:32 AM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

...& Assault On A Queen 1966, that strange caper movie with Frank Sinatra. I never thought that would ever get a release, & Olive released it multi-region, something they seemed to have stopped doing now. But as I said, any decent release will come from Paramount, they won't farm that out to Olive.

I picked up the blu-ray and I thought Olive did a good job with it. Thought it looked pretty good.

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2015 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

Good news: ONE EYED JACKS is being restored by Martin Scorsese's The Film Foundation and Universal Pictures. Columnist Jeffrey Wells sought confirmation of rumors by getting on the phone to Universal and breaks the news in his column Hollywood Elsewhere:


The Authentic Return of One-Eyed Jacks

How many times have I written about the ongoing visual tragedy of Marlon Brando‘s One-Eyed Jacks? For too many years the 8-perf VistaVision splendor of this classic 1961 western, shot by Charles Lang, has been unviewable due to the film rights having lapsed into public domain, which has resulted in several atrocious-looking DVD dupes (largely sourced from a decent-looking Paramount laser disc issued in the ’90s) flooding the market. Well, this nightmare is finally at an end with Universal and Martin Scorsese‘s The Film Foundation having recently agreed to join forces on a 4K “restoration” of One Eyed Jacks.


The rest is here:

http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2015/07/authentic-return-one-eyed-jacks/

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2015 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Finally, some good news on ONE-EYED JACKS. It's interesting that the author, Jeffrey Wells, believes that nearly all Paramount VistaVision films were composed for projection at a 1.66:1 ratio. Paramount itself apparently didn't know this when they released their laserdisc in a 1.85:1 ratio.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2015 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

Well, the technicalities of aspect ratio can be confusing for some people. I wouldn't hold it against him. He is the first to talk to someone at Universal, to break the news and report the facts, and he appears to appreciate the film as much as we do.

I'm sure Universal will do a right and proper transfer -- and get the AR correct.

Personally I'm really excited about this restoration. A 4K scan of the original IB tech element -- who would have thought!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2015 - 6:56 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Good news: ONE EYED JACKS is being restored by Martin Scorsese's The Film Foundation and Universal Pictures. Columnist Jeffrey Wells sought confirmation of rumors by getting on the phone to Universal and breaks the news in his column Hollywood Elsewhere:


The Authentic Return of One-Eyed Jacks

How many times have I written about the ongoing visual tragedy of Marlon Brando‘s One-Eyed Jacks? For too many years the 8-perf VistaVision splendor of this classic 1961 western, shot by Charles Lang, has been unviewable due to the film rights having lapsed into public domain, which has resulted in several atrocious-looking DVD dupes (largely sourced from a decent-looking Paramount laser disc issued in the ’90s) flooding the market. Well, this nightmare is finally at an end with Universal and Martin Scorsese‘s The Film Foundation having recently agreed to join forces on a 4K “restoration” of One Eyed Jacks.


The rest is here:

http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2015/07/authentic-return-one-eyed-jacks/


Thanks for the update, Richard. Hopefully we'll get to see this sooner, and not way later. smile

Greg Espinoza

 
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