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 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 8:09 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I just wonder if Horner actually scored some of that unused footage. There's a bombastic, concertized flourish at 4:25 into the cue "Whispering Winds" that isn't in the film, so I wonder if that was just for Horner's sake, or if there was a bit of excised animation at that point (it's where the little pterodactyls are fighting over the cherry).

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I just wonder if Horner actually scored some of that unused footage. There's a bombastic, concertized flourish at 4:25 into the cue "Whispering Winds" that isn't in the film, so I wonder if that was just for Horner's sake, or if there was a bit of excised animation at that point (it's where the little pterodactyls are fighting over the cherry).

Okay I never noticed that before.

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 8:19 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

All right, MovieMusic has copies! Just pre-ordered, and threw in John Williams' expanded Minority Report and Jerry Goldsmith's The Salamander for the buck shipping deal. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   RustyNail   (Member)

Only 2 and half minutes of the end credits track was used in the film, the rest taken up by the Song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykKkt-cUHao

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 12:46 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

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 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 1:06 AM   
 By:   12-Mile Reef   (Member)

Ordered this and 'The Last Castle' immediately, great releases. And thrilled to see Intrada now supplying high res artwork, most appreciated!

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 1:29 AM   
 By:   Frank Vincent   (Member)

Only 2 and half minutes of the end credits track was used in the film, the rest taken up by the Song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykKkt-cUHao


Interestingly this also happened on An American Tail and An American Tail: Fievel Goes West. Horner scored the full end credits, but it was partly replaced by the song.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 1:45 AM   
 By:   Frank Vincent   (Member)

I just wonder if Horner actually scored some of that unused footage. There's a bombastic, concertized flourish at 4:25 into the cue "Whispering Winds" that isn't in the film, so I wonder if that was just for Horner's sake, or if there was a bit of excised animation at that point (it's where the little pterodactyls are fighting over the cherry).

I think he did score some of the unused footage, because there's also music on "The Rescue / Discovery of the Great Valley" (0:29 - 2:28) that is not heard in the film.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 4:35 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

Intrada is knocking it out of the park this year with this title, War of the Worlds, Legends of the Fall and The River. Kudos!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Urrrgh, want to buy this right now, but I'm still waiting on MovieMusic getting copies so I can combine it with some other wants and get that dollar shipping...

That's what I almost always do...but there's nothing to buy with it. Other things I want are out of stock and new stock seems to never be gotten at the same time.
Might have to order direct and eat the extra $4 or whatever. (which granted I know gives Intrada themselves more money, but still)...

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

I just wonder if Horner actually scored some of that unused footage. There's a bombastic, concertized flourish at 4:25 into the cue "Whispering Winds" that isn't in the film, so I wonder if that was just for Horner's sake, or if there was a bit of excised animation at that point (it's where the little pterodactyls are fighting over the cherry).

I always just assumed it was some classical piece that I wasn't aware of (but Horner was). Of course I love that track.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   Frank Vincent   (Member)

There's a bombastic, concertized flourish at 4:25 into the cue "Whispering Winds" that isn't in the film

That part was used in the trailer. So, the trailer not only has deleted footage but also deleted music.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm still not convinced he scored the film until he got the final cut of the film. I say this because Spielberg did a hatchet job on it after Bluth handed over the final film. Thus if music was cut there would be a lot more of it. (other than the noted end credits music)

BTW, ordered!!!!! You snooze, you lose nowadays. (I didn't jump on Legends of the Fall and that seems to be OOS)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   lacoq   (Member)

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A wonderful detailed review and great at putting in context Horner's classical music borrowings. A must read!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   juhana   (Member)

I wonder how reliable the "late October" estimate of Kamen's Robin Hood coming back into stock is? I'm considering combining that one to this order (and for reasons of overseas shipping costs, combining items is rather necessary...)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   CCOJOE   (Member)

Ordered.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

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Wow...loved the analysis. Its so beautifully insightful to read Horner talking directly about the controversy that surrounded him during his lifetime. And well, yes, that was his approach and although for us film music lovers it was always like a unsolved puzzle, in his mind was always intellectually and intuitively logic.

Btw, the first time I found out he took Bartok's The Wooden Prince segment, it sounded the exact same for me, which at the time made me feel disappointed. Now, 20 years later, I listen to it with new ears, and not only I appreciate Horner's quotation technique approach much more, but I'm also finding Horner's version not sounding 100% note by note like Bartok's as I had thought. Its more like 80% Bartok and 20% Horner. He actually didn't lifted it exactly as it is. Almost? absolutely, but not exactly, which I know is not a big deal but makes my heart smile a little more.

Gosh, miss him so much.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Exclusive Preview @ James Horner Film Music.Com:

http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/the-land-before-time-expanded-edition-our-exclusive-review/


Wow...loved the analysis. Its so beautifully insightful to read Horner talking directly about the controversy that surrounded him during his lifetime. And well, yes, that was his approach and although for us film music lovers it was always like a unsolved puzzle, in his mind was always intellectually and intuitively logic.

Btw, the first time I found out he took Bartok's The Wooden Prince segment, it sounded the exact same for me, which at the time made me feel disappointed. Now, 20 years later, I listen to it with new ears, and not only I appreciate Horner's quotation technique approach much more, but I'm also finding Horner's version not sounding 100% note by note like Bartok's as I had thought. Its more like 80% Bartok and 20% Horner. He actually didn't lifted it exactly as it is. Almost? absolutely, but not exactly, which I know is not a big deal but makes my heart smile a little more.

Gosh, miss him so much.



The funny thing is every time I hear a complaint about a lift I listen to the original source cue and think, damn, Horner did it SOOOO MUCH better! Though I think he could've been a bit more ethical and credited his sources.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

The funny thing is every time I hear a complaint about a lift I listen to the original source cue and think, damn, Horner did it SOOOO MUCH better!

Trolling, of course?

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

A little trivia. Don Bluth left Disney with 13 other animators in the middle of the production of The Fox and the Hound. This resulted in a six month delay in the release of The Fox and the Hound.

After Fox and the Hound, Disney released The Black Cauldron with a very green crew which was a financial disaster beaten by the independent The Car Bears Movie. The Great Mouse Detective didn’t light up the box office either.

After Bluth’s NIMH got swamped at the Box Office the same summer by Spielberg’s E.T., Spielberg saw NIMH and said he hadn’t seen this kind of classically drawn animation since Pinocchio- which he loved as a kid.

Bluth and Spielberg made a three picture deal. First was An American Tail. An American Tail turned out to be the most successful 2D animated film on first release in film history completely embarrassing Disney.

Jump ahead to 1988 and Spielberg’s and Bluth’s Land Before Time went up head to head against Disney’s Oliver and Company opening on the same friday! Land Before Time was beating Oliver at the box office. Then CEO of Disney proclaimed, we’re keeping Oliver in the theater no matter how long it takes to outperform Land Before Time.

Eventually Disney’s Oliver won the box office battle.

 
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