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 Posted:   Oct 6, 2020 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   jwb1   (Member)

Um, my set arrived from SAE and its missing Disc 3!


Write them back. (If it was Disc 4 you could have used the old OST album instead)


I've been told they must get Intrada to send them Disc 3 and then they will send it to me. Which is going to take weeks....

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2020 - 3:43 AM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

This is my favourite Michael Kamen score – by far – and I am extremely excited about it…
As I have not received my copy yet; I have simply been reading whatever information I can obtain about it…
The reason for my post – is because I have read the following comment from a – “poster” – by the name of – “Crocodile” – in the JWFAN Forums; that – even though – this is a massive #4 CD Set; we still have 5 minutes of music missing!
The cue in question is actually exciting – as it is:
MARRIAGE PLANS / ROBIN’S ALIVE

To me; it doesn’t seem to be witticism. It sounds serious; as this – “post” – states the following remark:
“You probably don't need all of it but it's nice to have this definitive (sans 5 minutes) version. Liner notes go into quite a lot of detail explaining what's new”.
Read about it here: https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/32810-michael-kamens-robin-hood-prince-of-thieves-1991-new-2020-intrada-edition/page/2/

No one has actually commented about this; all I read was that –
“They conducted a most thorough search in London, Los Angeles, and other places, and were unable to locate a few things. Wasn't from a lack of trying, though”.

Honestly?
So please; can anyone enlighten me? Is this true? And if so – is there going to be another release once the missing elements get found!? Thanking you in advance. Much appreciated.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2020 - 5:42 AM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

This is my favourite Michael Kamen score – by far – and I am extremely excited about it…
As I have not received my copy yet; I have simply been reading whatever information I can obtain about it…
The reason for my post – is because I have read the following comment from a – “poster” – by the name of – “Crocodile” – in the JWFAN Forums; that – even though – this is a massive #4 CD Set; we still have 5 minutes of music missing!
The cue in question is actually exciting – as it is:
MARRIAGE PLANS / ROBIN’S ALIVE

To me; it doesn’t seem to be witticism. It sounds serious; as this – “post” – states the following remark:
“You probably don't need all of it but it's nice to have this definitive (sans 5 minutes) version. Liner notes go into quite a lot of detail explaining what's new”.
Read about it here: https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/32810-michael-kamens-robin-hood-prince-of-thieves-1991-new-2020-intrada-edition/page/2/

No one has actually commented about this; all I read was that –
“They conducted a most thorough search in London, Los Angeles, and other places, and were unable to locate a few things. Wasn't from a lack of trying, though”.

Honestly?
So please; can anyone enlighten me? Is this true? And if so – is there going to be another release once the missing elements get found!? Thanking you in advance. Much appreciated.


This is true - the cue is missing but in all honesty there is such a treasure trove of material on this set it’s hard to know where to start! Absolutely brilliant.

And to top it off I have managed to blend the bridge between the finale and the song to the song and it works very well!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2020 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

Thank You Brendon!

I will be grateful for what has been released! I never knew that an “alternate” End Title cue existed – so I am saying to myself; that the “End Title” – (sort of) – replaces the missing cue!

That is how I see it… even "Superman" can’t win them all, I guess…

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2020 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

Thank You Brendon!

I will be grateful for what has been released! I never knew that an “alternate” End Title cue existed – so I am saying to myself; that the “End Title” – (sort of) – replaces the missing cue!

That is how I see it… even "Superman" can’t win them all, I guess…


Yes the end credits is a nice bonus. I may do a join of the bridge and that end credits - would make a nice ‘Love Theme from Robin Hood’

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2020 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   GOLDSMITHDAKING   (Member)

I really like this score but 4 cds for it is ridiculous.The 2 disc edition from a few years back is more than enough.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2020 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

I really like this score but 4 cds for it is ridiculous.The 2 disc edition from a few years back is more than enough.



Intrada went to the effort to revisit this album based on demand for the last edition, and they sold out their first pressing of the new version almost immediately, based on their posts. Clearly there were people, like me, who hungered for a more complete edition. I'm thrilled they gave us this new version. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2020 - 7:36 PM   
 By:   amatalqa   (Member)

The new material is incredible. This set is worth getting if only for disc 2 tracks 6,7,8. Not to mention the previously missing cues with Robin’s father and the Sherrif from the beginning of the film. It’s really amazing. So satisfying. I’ve waited 29 years for this release and I loved the 2018 release. This is the ultimate holy grail for me. Thank you Michael Kamen and thank you Intrada.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2020 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Wonderful score, great release!

I miss Michael Kamen...

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2020 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   Scotty Boy   (Member)

Hope they get the new stock soon. I held off ordering it until War of the Worlds came out to save postage, and now I'm waiting for both. I wasn't expecting the initial batch to sell out so quickly.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2020 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Every time I hear the main theme I think I'm listening to an Alan Silvestri score.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2020 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   Zack371   (Member)

This is a personal Top 5 score of all time for me.

This release is EASILY my #1 release of the year for me.

Thank you, Intrada!!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2020 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   SilentWitness   (Member)

Fantastic release indeed!
Has anyone else noticed that the film version of "Village Destructo" is actually alternate #3 without the brass and not "Village Destructo (Alternate #2)" as seems to be believed?
Also, excerpts from both "Village Destructo (Alternate #1)" and "Village Destructo (Alternate #2), coupled with an excerpt from "Troops", are used in the film instead of "Celt Battle Pt. 3". But the ending of the film version is from neither of these three tracks. I can't place where those last few notes, right after Robin's fall, come from. Any ideas?
Besides the lengthy "Marriage Plans / Robin's Alive", still missing are the film version of "Wild Times" and another "Medieval Dance" source cue from the camp's festivities. Instead we now have four versions of an unused source track which seems more fitted to castle festivities than to those of a band of outlaws. Interesting.
There seems to be missing a short alternate insert for the moment when Robin crashes through the window during the finale. At least I don't seem to be able to figure out where that short bit might have been tracked from.
And "Circle of Stones" is just the pitched-up and looped opening of the main title. Even the tempo is sped up whereas in the film the tempo remains the same. Interestingly there's no circle of stones in that scene, just a circle of wood, but I guess "Circle of Stones" just sounds better...
Anyway, I'm not nitpicking, just mentioning these details in case they haven't been noticed before.
The wealth of great music is a joy to listen to. A wonderful opportunity to revisit the film and its score. Thank you Intrada!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2020 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Instead we now have four versions of an unused source track which seems more fitted to castle festivities than to those of a band of outlaws. Interesting.



According to Cue Assembly section of the notes, the "Medieval Dances" are for the soft-sounding lyre, which would be well-suited to a band of forest-dwelling outlaws trying not to draw too much attention to themselves.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2020 - 2:51 AM   
 By:   SilentWitness   (Member)

According to Cue Assembly section of the notes, the "Medieval Dances" are for the soft-sounding lyre, which would be well-suited to a band of forest-dwelling outlaws trying not to draw too much attention to themselves.

Good point. It may also have been intended for festive music in between dancing. The key fits well with "Maid Marian at the Waterfall / Camp - Reprise / Baby". So they could easily have segued into each other.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2020 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   BasilDowl   (Member)

Having now listened to this set on repeat for a fortnight, I can crow loudly from the rooftops that it is absolutely magnificent.

Yes, a couple of tiny gripes about missing material, but overall it is just fabulous. That final bit of the Celt battle is sensational. Also excellent to have the glorious homecoming/white cliffs cue on its own, so I no longer have to cut up the main title. Great value, even if it did cost £50 to get it to the UK.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2020 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   Nathan Erickson   (Member)

Sorry if I missed in a previous post, but is this release the complete score? No matter what, it's an amazing set and happy to have purchased it!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2020 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Sorry if I missed in a previous post, but is this release the complete score? No matter what, it's an amazing set and happy to have purchased it!'

There was one cue that they've still been unable to find.

It also proved impossible to license the song, which Kamen co-wrote, using the man theme from the film, but which is easily found elsewhere

Other than that, it's as complete as we're ever likely to get.

It's also magnificent. smile

Also, they found the unused End Titles music that Kamen recorded, which is on the album in place of the song, so the album has a much more pleasing conclusion than the previous edition.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2020 - 8:23 PM   
 By:   Nathan Erickson   (Member)

Sorry if I missed in a previous post, but is this release the complete score? No matter what, it's an amazing set and happy to have purchased it!'

There was one cue that they've still been unable to find.

It also proved impossible to license the song, which Kamen co-wrote, using the man theme from the film, but which is easily found elsewhere

Other than that, it's as complete as we're ever likely to get.

It's also magnificent. smile

Also, they found the unused End Titles music that Kamen recorded, which is on the album in place of the song, so the album has a much more pleasing conclusion than the previous edition.


Thanks for the info! So what cue is still missing, besides the Bryan Adams song?

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2020 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


The only drawback I can see is that, unfortunately, "Marriage Plans/Robin's Alive" could not be located. Roger confirmed this on the Intrada board.



12M01 - "Marriage Plans / Robin's Alive" (4:53) DVD: 1:41:18 - 1:46:04

Plays from Sheriff's forced marriage proposal to Sheriff telling Marian Robin is Dead, to Robin's survival.



Besides the lengthy "Marriage Plans / Robin's Alive", still missing are the film version of "Wild Times" and another "Medieval Dance" source cue from the camp's festivities. Instead we now have four versions of an unused source track which seems more fitted to castle festivities than to those of a band of outlaws. Interesting.
There seems to be missing a short alternate insert for the moment when Robin crashes through the window during the finale. At least I don't seem to be able to figure out where that short bit might have been tracked from.

 
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