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 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

ok... meaning it sounds exactly like his previous 20 scores....

Yes, it's completely indistinguishable from "The Bourne Ultimatum," "Knight and Day," and "Kung Fu Panda 2."

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

ok... meaning it sounds exactly like his previous 20 scores....

Yes, it's completely indistinguishable from "The Bourne Ultimatum," "Knight and Day," and "Kung Fu Panda 2."


Don't forget that Chicken Run, Stop-loss, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, and How To Train Your Dragon are also completely boring, snore-inducing walls of sound that one can't tell apart.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

WOW! Lokutus, you just described my feelings about newman in Skyfall & SPECTRE! big grin

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

The Powell hire is the most promising thing I've heard about this project.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

I like Powell a lot, but hiring him to replace Marianelli (who has an Oscar and 3 nominations for his other Joe Wright films) seems like a really bad omen, as does the fact that the film has two cinematographers (two-time nominees Seamus McGarvey -- Wright's usual guy -- and John Mathieson), which suggests at the very least a troubled production.

The Soloist was the last Wright film I've liked -- Hanna seemed much ado about nothing (with an uncharacteristically bad Cate Blanchett performance) and Anna Karenina put me to sleep when it wasn't annoying me with its showy, half-baked theater-style staging.

Also, am I the only one who's seen the Pan trailer and thinks that Garrett Hedlund's acting (as "Jim Hook") seems embarrassingly bad? Like, I-can't-believe-I'm-seeing-acting-this-amateurish-in-a-hundred-million-dollar-movie bad?

I suspect I'll still enjoy it more than Spielberg's Hook, while I think the 2003 Peter Pan is really underrated.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Two pieces from the score...?

https://youtu.be/FHMZ93UMsno

https://youtu.be/UdIistOkAbI


Those cues sound great. Lokutus must be bitter, because while these are distinctly Powell, they don't sound like his last 20 scores at all.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

I like Powell a lot, but hiring him to replace Marianelli (who has an Oscar and 3 nominations for his other Joe Wright films) seems like a really bad omen, as does the fact that the film has two cinematographers (two-time nominees Seamus McGarvey -- Wright's usual guy -- and John Mathieson), which suggests at the very least a troubled production.

Also, am I the only one who's seen the Pan trailer and thinks that Garrett Hedlund's acting (as "Jim Hook") seems embarrassingly bad? Like, I-can't-believe-I'm-seeing-acting-this-amateurish-in-a-hundred-million-dollar-movie bad?

I suspect I'll still enjoy it more than Spielberg's Hook, while I think the 2003 Peter Pan is really underrated.


Yup yup yup

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Gary Mongiovi   (Member)

The tracks posted by Khan (thanks) sound like Powell was asked to produce something like Pirates of the Caribbean. Dense, oppressive head-candy. I'm not a big Dario Marrinelli fan, and I generally like Powell's work, but I don't think this is going to turn out well. Maybe it's time for another CD of rejected scores--Pan, Shore's King Kong ... What else?

Gary

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

Apart from his HTTYD scores, I've not really been able to connect with Powell's music. Technically proficient but emotionally lacking, and those samples didn't really change my mind.

Shame they didn't stick with Marianelli, as I've got a fair amount of his work which I enjoy.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

Apart from his HTTYD scores, I've not really been able to connect with Powell's music. Technically proficient but emotionally lacking, and those samples didn't really change my mind.

Shame they didn't stick with Marianelli, as I've got a fair amount of his work which I enjoy.


My favorite Powells have tended to be his more action-oriented works like Paycheck, The Italian Job and the Bournes. I liked his Dragon but the orchestrations had a lack of delicacy, a trait I associate with a lot of the Media Ventures/Remote Control composers. I would have liked to see what he'd have done with Edge of Tomorrow; still a little surprised that he didn't do it. After ducking out on that and Captain Phillips, I was starting to wonder if he was giving up movie work entirely.

My favorite Powell piece might actually be his main theme from, of all things, The Adventures of Pluto Nash, a really catchy and fun tune.

My favorite Marianelli is still The Brothers Grimm.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

My favorite Powells have tended to be his more action-oriented works like Paycheck, The Italian Job and the Bournes.


Rio, Kung Fu Panda, Ice Age, Happy Feet, Horton etc. don't tend to provide the sort of music I like for animated scores, they are usually too comedy-like in order to appeal to the very young age group. And I'm also quite choosy with action scores, as it's not a particular favourite genre of mine if the music has to be adrenaline-fuelled and pulsating like it often is these days. I've owned a few of those you mentioned, but got rid of them as they didn't engage me. So unfortunately, I guess he hasn't had much chance to work on things that are going to appeal to me, stuff where he can add more depth and grown-up(!?) emotion.

Maybe he could stretch out more if he got some dramas or genre flicks to work on. Or something like that new Ben-Hur...

He just seems a bit "typecast" on films that are somewhat generic.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Apart from his HTTYD scores, I've not really been able to connect with Powell's music. Technically proficient but emotionally lacking, and those samples didn't really change my mind.

I actually feel this way about Marianelli's work for the most part.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I love Powell’s music. I think because he’s been given so many animated movies, it has become easy to pick out some of his signature sounds. It is rather easy to spot Goldsmith, Bernstein and Thomas Newman’s signature sounds. Artists develop their personal styles. I thought the two Pan cues sounded somewhat similar to his HTTYD scores, and that is good for me. I loved those scores. Also, we shouldn’t forget that he can branch out into other genres like his understated but powerfully dramatic score for United 93 or his lovely melodies for the comedy Two Weeks Notice.

Sorry, but I’ve never bought a Marianelli score. Nothing he’s composed has resonated with me the way Powell’s music has.

My favorite Powell cue is The Fire Truck from Evolution. I never tire of listening to it. I’d love to hear mores cues like this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcyZ_VnLEgw

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Sorry, but I’ve never bought a Marianelli score. Nothing he’s composed has resonated with me the way Powell’s music has.

I do love Powell and find his music emotionally engaging. Phoenix's Theme, "The Final Race" from Endurance, the dramatic material from Paycheck. . .

As for Marianelli, for emotions check out "Attraversiamo" from Eat Pray Love:

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

The tracks posted by Khan (thanks) sound like Powell was asked to produce something like Pirates of the Caribbean. Dense, oppressive head-candy. I'm not a big Dario Marrinelli fan, and I generally like Powell's work, but I don't think this is going to turn out well. Maybe it's time for another CD of rejected scores--Pan, Shore's King Kong ... What else?

How about a proper recording of Silvestri's Pirates of the Caribbean demos? smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

My favorite Powells have tended to be his more action-oriented works like Paycheck, The Italian Job and the Bournes. I liked his Dragon but the orchestrations had a lack of delicacy, a trait I associate with a lot of the Media Ventures/Remote Control composers.

I honestly feel the two HTTYDs are just mastered too loud, making them sound much worse (and frankly MVish) than they actually are.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 9:21 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Thanks, mastadge, that is a nice, emotional cue.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2015 - 3:44 AM   
 By:   RonaldBuk   (Member)

Score release is October, 9, according to Film Music Reporter.

Cover:
http://www.watertower-music.com/images/covers/Pan.jpg

Simply can't wait for the score, especially after I've heard the samples!

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2015 - 4:37 AM   
 By:   ArjanOudekerk   (Member)

Eventhough I like certain Powell scores, for me Marianelli can do no wrong. I have loved every single one of his scores that have been released so I'm dissappointed he didn't score this one. As for the movie itself... meh.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2015 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   RonaldBuk   (Member)

For all those who are interested, could be from the score:

John Powell - Pan - Mermaids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkeHMcQWG3k

 
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