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 Posted:   Apr 15, 2015 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   crocodile   (Member)

Thanks, I really appreciate all this info. smile

Karol

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2015 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   desplatfan1   (Member)

So was this score even properly recorded? Or were they just mockups?

Karol


Only mock ups.


Thanks for the info. Sounds like another Oldboy case, where the score is rejected before actually being recorded. I don't know how they managed to get Powell, I mean, Powell seemed to be practically tired of scoring Hollywood films on his latest interviews. But if it's true, then it will be great to have him back into live action mode again.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2015 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)


Yeah... Marianelli is definitely lucky to have worked on something for a year and then be replaced without ever getting his work finished until truly presentable state.
Well... at least we'll get another generic score instead of what could have been one of the best scores of the year.


John Powell, generic??! I like Marianelli too, and it's a shame he's off the project, but I'm shocked to hear you feel this way about Powell's music. To me, the vast majority of his work is creative and distinctive and doesn't sound like it could be written by anyone else. It's other composers who are made to sound like HIM!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2015 - 12:27 AM   
 By:   John W   (Member)

This didn't look terribly appealing to me anyway, but I was going to give it a chance since I love Joe Wright's films, as well as Marianelli's scores to his films. Knowing that the studio stuck its nose where it didn't belong and pulled the score takes away most of the incentive I had to see this.

mad

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2015 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Great news, I enjoy Powell's music more.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2015 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Great news, I enjoy Powell's music more.

Me too. I vastly prefer Powell over Marianelli and something like Pan for Powell will be incredible, I think. How to Train Your Dragon meets Hancock maybe? Yes please! Hope Powell gets more assignments like this, and so happy to see him back composing after his sabbatical or whatever.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2015 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   Dylan   (Member)

The release of "Pan" has been pushed back to November:

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/pan-release-date-october-hugh-hackman-1201476156/

This is anything but surprising given what we know about the production so far.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2015 - 6:00 PM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

The release of "Pan" has been pushed back to November:

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/pan-release-date-october-hugh-hackman-1201476156/

This is anything but surprising given what we know about the production so far.


Ya smell that? I smell a colossal bomb. Not quite on the scale of Jupiter Ascending or Pacific Rim bomb. But pretty close.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2015 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

The release of "Pan" has been pushed back to November:

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/pan-release-date-october-hugh-hackman-1201476156/

This is anything but surprising given what we know about the production so far.


Ya smell that? I smell a colossal bomb. Not quite on the scale of Jupiter Ascending or Pacific Rim bomb. But pretty close.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2015 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

A bomb of... mythical proportions?

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2015 - 6:43 PM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

The release of "Pan" has been pushed back to November:

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/pan-release-date-october-hugh-hackman-1201476156/

This is anything but surprising given what we know about the production so far.


Ya smell that? I smell a colossal bomb. Not quite on the scale of Jupiter Ascending or Pacific Rim bomb. But pretty close.


There's no comparing Jupiter Ascending to Pacific Rim. Pacific Rim wasn't a bomb.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2015 - 7:14 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

PM was a bomb in the U.S.; it didn't make it's budget back with domestic take-in's, according to information online. However, with world-wide take-in's, it profitted big. For some reason the rest of the world thought it would be a good idea to see the movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2015 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   MClayton   (Member)



Ya smell that? I smell a colossal bomb. Not quite on the scale of Jupiter Ascending or Pacific Rim bomb. But pretty close.


If "Pan" was moved to September or January 2016, then that would be a huge red flag. However, some non-horror films have hit it big in October (namely WB's own "Gravity" back in 2013). Fox even has an X-Men spinoff slated for October 2016.

In one of the trade reports, there was a statement from Dan Fellman about why they moved "Pan" from July 24 to October 9. He mentioned the strong competition from Paramount's MI5 and Marvel's "Ant-Man" and that he anticipates that the movie will generate strong word-of-mouth due to the less crowded fall corridor.

Don't be so quick to say "WB moved it from summer to fall... IT'S A BOMB!" Disappointed about Marianelli being off the film though.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2015 - 9:54 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)


Ya smell that? I smell a colossal bomb. Not quite on the scale of Jupiter Ascending or Pacific Rim bomb. But pretty close.


Sorry. Pacific Rim was not a bomb.

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2015 - 9:57 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

So . . . a poster has popped up with John Powell's name instead of Marianelli's. It seems too obscure to be random internet wankery, and nothing has been announced, but . . .

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/movie/pan/pan-poster-2/


There's an identical poster with Marianelli's name on it, weird.


Well, this explains the note we got from Warner to take down the Pan one-sheet (we didn't put up yet) and destroy it. It's got Marianelli's credit on it.

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2015 - 11:06 PM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)



Ya smell that? I smell a colossal bomb. Not quite on the scale of Jupiter Ascending or Pacific Rim bomb. But pretty close.


If "Pan" was moved to September or January 2016, then that would be a huge red flag. However, some non-horror films have hit it big in October (namely WB's own "Gravity" back in 2013). Fox even has an X-Men spinoff slated for October 2016.

In one of the trade reports, there was a statement from Dan Fellman about why they moved "Pan" from July 24 to October 9. He mentioned the strong competition from Paramount's MI5 and Marvel's "Ant-Man" and that he anticipates that the movie will generate strong word-of-mouth due to the less crowded fall corridor.

Don't be so quick to say "WB moved it from summer to fall... IT'S A BOMB!" Disappointed about Marianelli being off the film though.


To plan a big budget film for the summer and then move it because of the "strong competition" is never a good sign. The damage control with statements in the trades doesn´t help. And to say that "the effects needed more time"... that´s the exact explanation for "Jupiter Ascending"´s move from summer last year. By the same studio, Warner Bros., by the way.

In connection with Marianelli´s score thrown out - this only can mean that the film did not preview well at all. And the online buzz after the release of the trailer was pretty devestating as well. Frankly, the more I see of "Pan" the more I think of "Hook". And that one at least had Steven Spielberg as a director. I like Joe Wright´s work - but I think "Pan" is an absolutely misguided idea.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2015 - 11:25 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)



Ya smell that? I smell a colossal bomb. Not quite on the scale of Jupiter Ascending or Pacific Rim bomb. But pretty close.


If "Pan" was moved to September or January 2016, then that would be a huge red flag. However, some non-horror films have hit it big in October (namely WB's own "Gravity" back in 2013). Fox even has an X-Men spinoff slated for October 2016.

In one of the trade reports, there was a statement from Dan Fellman about why they moved "Pan" from July 24 to October 9. He mentioned the strong competition from Paramount's MI5 and Marvel's "Ant-Man" and that he anticipates that the movie will generate strong word-of-mouth due to the less crowded fall corridor.

Don't be so quick to say "WB moved it from summer to fall... IT'S A BOMB!" Disappointed about Marianelli being off the film though.


To plan a big budget film for the summer and then move it because of the "strong competition" is never a good sign. The damage control with statements in the trades doesn´t help. And to say that "the effects needed more time"... that´s the exact explanation for "Jupiter Ascending"´s move from summer last year. By the same studio, Warner Bros., by the way.

In connection with Marianelli´s score thrown out - this only can mean that the film did not preview well at all. And the online buzz after the release of the trailer was pretty devestating as well. Frankly, the more I see of "Pan" the more I think of "Hook". And that one at least had Steven Spielberg as a director. I like Joe Wright´s work - but I think "Pan" is an absolutely misguided idea.



1.) The Film is being recut to make changes that will make it more "Family Friendly", certain characters are being changed so they are more "Family Friendly"

2.) The Additional time will allow them to make these changes and open at a point when a family friendly film will stand a good chance at making it's $$$ back.

3.) The Studio clearly wasn't happy with the director's vision and so now they can only go back recut reshoot a few things and re-score.

Such is life in Hollywood.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2015 - 12:18 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

It has BOMB written all over it...and Now..The massive death wish on it. Pan is being moved around. Remember Jupiter Decending...It bombed. It was suppose to come out in Summer 2014, but Warner Brothers got scared when Test Audiences said...Huh? lol

The Director Joe Wright said with the new release date ..this gives him more time with Visuals and Edits.

They decided to move it from Summer(More Kids out of School) to Fall of Oct(Less kids out of school) ..lol

Sorry...It has massive bomb on it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2015 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   MClayton   (Member)



To plan a big budget film for the summer and then move it because of the "strong competition" is never a good sign. The damage control with statements in the trades doesn´t help. And to say that "the effects needed more time"... that´s the exact explanation for "Jupiter Ascending"´s move from summer last year. By the same studio, Warner Bros., by the way.


I'm fully aware of the reasoning behind WB moving "Jupiter Ascending" -- not only did Fellman say 'we needed more time to complete the visual effects' but said something to the effect that "well, 'The Lego Movie' did well in February 2014 so that's why we moved Jupiter there." That was BS, and I tend to take PR statements like that with a grain of salt.

However, WB didn't push "Pan" to September, nor January/February 2016 (a huge red flag) but to fall. This October is bereft of a big spectacle film, and Disney's "Jungle Book" remake was originally slated for October 9 before being pushed to spring 2016. The move to October means they have some faith in it than they would for a winter 2016 release.

"Pan" could be a good movie, but the marketing isn't doing it any favors either.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2015 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   moviescore1   (Member)

With Powell on board, this could turn out to be great! Regardless of whether the movie is a bomb or not, the score could be fantastic.

 
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