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I don't find it legit from an environmental standpoint when we are all having to burn CD-Rs Well, here's your real problem. You're stuck in 1998.
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I am not interested in the "composer's vision." I am interested in a satisfying listening experience. Sometimes the composer gets it right, sometimes not. Whatever 'satisfies' one listener is not going to be satisfying to all listeners. I myself like those multi-CD sets containing the available cues by Edwin Astley on his music for 1960s ITV shows, for example. Due to the nature of the television medium, those cues are short with many being less than 30 seconds. The CDs were made to preserve, and offer the customers, that which survives ... but the raw material isn't edited together to create 'longer' tracks (i.e. 3+ minutes) or 20-minute suites. If a music slate is 19 seconds, then it is given its own track # on the disc and is not elongated by the editing together of other such brief elements. Listening to such archival sounds is not a typical 'album' experience and the listener receives a vicarious experience of what it could have been like to have been a music editor for a television program absorbing a sequence of same-sounding cues from a library of stock music and selecting individual passages for its usage between, say, 3:01 into the program and lasting until 3:20 mark. This might be audio 'hell' to most folks ... but ... this satisfies me + I'm happy with it issuance onto physical media for laymen to purchase. This sort of presentation probably won't satisfy OnyaBirri & Thor. I feel that their expectations on what constitutes a satisfactory album is ultimately too narrow a notion for my tastes. Who mandates that similar-sounding tracks need to be separated by non-similar music and that such 'samey' cues should not reside next to each other on disc? A 75-minute disc program might be too long for some and they may prefer to 'whittle' things down to a duration less than 40 minutes. Yet, some of the same people expect the cues within such to still be at least 2-to-3-mintues long (as if each track in an album needs to be the length of a typical song) and they will have no 'truck' with those 19-second musical stingers or transitional/connective passages. To my mind, the expectation that a soundtrack release need also be an album reveals more about the listener's limitations than a producer's abilities because such listeners hold onto the formulaic paradigms of what THEY think an album SHOULD be. [Suppose it is an artist's intentions to have short same-sounding musical snippets? Is the artist obligated to alter the music to tend to all the possible listener preferences? ]
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On that, I disagree. Highlights – which is what most film music albums are, pre-2000s, are not inherently dramatic. (In fact, those 30 minute Varese albums were often dramatic in how hopelessly inert they were.) If anything, a highlights-only presentation more of then than not interrupts the intent of the drama – and one's memory of the film. Personally, I don't give a fuck about the 'memory of the film'. The film doesn't even exist as a point of reference in my soundtrack listening. It could just as well not exist. That's why I've never been interested in 'missing music' and that kind of stuff. All that matters is the album I have in front of me, and how that holds up a a listening experience. The 30-minute Varese albums were brilliant more often than not. The limitations brought on by re-use fees and limited LP/CD space forced the composer/producer to re-conceptualize their music for listening. I miss that! So you have never seen a film where you heard some brilliant theme, then bought the album only to find that the brilliant theme is not present, and being annoyed by that? Weird.
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Oct 24, 2020 - 3:41 PM
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darthbrett
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Being a huge fan of film/movies as well as music/film scores, I am going to say C&C releases are 1,000,000,000,000x more enjoyable and satisfying to me than an abbreviated album that was edited down; whether it was because it had to fit on a limiting, constrictive constrained medium (LP, cassette) or because of budget limitations and licensing fees. Not to mention, a C&C score release allows me to fully appreciate the entire effort of work and blood, sweat & tears that the composer poured into the score when they originally wrote, composed and recorded it for the film and film audiences. I think something a lot of of us are forgetting here, is that the film scores would not exist without the film coming first or being created in the first place. I mean, what is the name of this site? FILM Score Monthly. The movie comes first and the score follows suit and is written later on to fit into the body of work that is the film (or television episode/series). So for me, the score I want to listen to needs to follow what the film laid out in the first place. If that makes sense. For example, think of a film and let's say scene 1 of that film is point A, scene 2 is point B, etc. I do not want my score, which is a roadmap of sorts for the film for me musically speaking, to have point Z, point F, point J and then point A in a jumbled, out-of-order sequence. I want to be able to re-live every musical moment from a movie I love. Just thinking back to the original Star Wars scores, I remember how exciting and absolutely fulfilling it was to get the '93 Arista box set and being able to hear cues for the first time that I had wished for years would have been on the official albums. And then 3 years later getting the (mostly) complete Star Wars scores chronologically and nearly 100% complete was a total dream come true! The beauty of C&C releases is that it allows us all to create whatever listening experience our heart desires. It leaves us to decide what we prefer or is our favorite way to listen to the music that was composed for a film. For me personally, a Chronological & Complete score will always be the real album. Thank you boutique labels for producing what most of us want! And please continue to produce more absolutely fantastic, wonderful and amazing C & C releases that 99% of us will instantly purchase and always appreciate that you took the time to put out. Chronological & Complete -- all day, every day.
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