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 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

I have discovered it. I like it a lot, different presentation of the music, including different takes. Jedi sounds much better than the 2CD set.

I was surprised that the Main Title plays like the concert version, which includes the End Title music.

It's a terrific listening experience.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Is this the tall box set with an extra disc of unreleased music from all three films? Great set at the time. Immediate buy when I saw it on the shelves in Best Buy back in the day.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

The 1993 STAR WARS set is a terrific box and presentation. I am very happy to have it, especially because it is a very different presentation from the RCA 2CD sets, which I also enjoy very much. I remember first encountering the Arista Box set in a store in 1993, and I was so happy... at that time, I only had the original 2CD set of STAR WARS, and only LPs of Empire and Jedi. So the presentation was a dream come true. I was equally happy to finally get the RCA 2CD sets in chronological order of the films.

To this day, I listen to both presentations, so it's not that I ever gave one away or had to "rediscover" either set. Ever since childhood I loved the cue "Mos Eisley Spaceport", even long before I knew there were "soundtrack LPs" with film music. When I finally got the STAR WARS soundtrack (from a friend on audio cassette... I made a copy), I loved the music, alas, that particular piece was not on it. Years later, it was finally included on the Arista set (as bonus) or the RCA set (in proper chronology).

Unlike THE RETURN OF THE JEDI, where the original LP was disappointing, both STAR WARS and EMPIRE STRIKES BACK had very well put together original soundtrack albums on double LPs, with the pieces very well selected and edited. I always love how some of the seemingly unrelated cues (like Obi-Wan sneaking around the Death Star and then the "final battle" were edited fluidly into lengthier cues and made perfect sense musically, and on the Arista set, these edits are preserved for the most part. So for that reason alone I would not part with it, even though I also very much enjoy the presentations on the 2CD sets. Especially RETURN OF THE JEDI.

It would be nice if the complete STAR WARS scores could get a new master from the best sources. When I think of what La-La Land Records accomplished with the Superman recording from the original tapes (they just sound like "Wow!"), it would be a dream come true if they could get their hands on the original session tapes of the STAR WARS Trilogy and do their magic. (Yes, I know it's not going to happen... but it should.)

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

I continue to be grateful for the care and thought that Lucas Kendall and Co. put into the box set. They worked under a significant time crunch and without all the documentation that they had hoped for and yet the final product is still beautifully presented and a rewarding listen. And the music has literally never sounded better.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

It would be nice if the complete STAR WARS scores could get a new master from the best sources. When I think of what La-La Land Records accomplished with the Superman recording from the original tapes (they just sound like "Wow!"), it would be a dream come true if they could get their hands on the original session tapes of the STAR WARS Trilogy and do their magic. (Yes, I know it's not going to happen... but it should.)

It's not going to happen because it would likely be Intrada. I really hope it happens. After all the phenomenal releases so many scores have gotten, it would be a shame if Star Wars was relegated to the releases we've gotten so far, instead of sounding as great as they could and being presented in a logical manner (aka, without alternate versions of cues tacked onto the beginning of other, unrelated, material as on the 2-CD sets).

The 1993 set was the first box set I ever got. My parents got it for me for Christmas and I was over the moon. It's been a treasured part of my collection ever since and it'll stay that way regardless of whether or not hell freezes over and the various Star Wars scores get the Intrada treatment.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 7:55 AM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

My girlfriend at the time bought this for me for Christmas. I was the envy of many of my friends.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

Does anyone know of any sound clips online of the 1993 JEDI release for comparison? I would be interested in tracking that down because the RCA sounds so poor I hardly listen to it anymore.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Does anyone know of any sound clips online of the 1993 JEDI release for comparison? I would be interested in tracking that down because the RCA sounds so poor I hardly listen to it anymore.

There is no comparison. The 2-CD set of Jedi is positively atrocious in terms of sound quality. Any of the other releases easily blow it out of the water in that department.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Ahhhh, a treasure. It's sitting right over there.

I was always a little confused that they went one way for Star Wars (original LP cue combinations with a couple of additions from the film) and another way for The Empire Strikes Back (LP tracks are split up into separate cues).

OMG is this box really going to be THIRTY YEARS OLD this year?!?

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

OMG is this box really going to be THIRTY YEARS OLD this year?!?

1993 - yes it is.

Also RETURN OF THE JEDI is in theaters this weekend for its (gulp) 40th anniversary.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

OMG is this box really going to be THIRTY YEARS OLD this year?!?

1993 - yes it is.

Also RETURN OF THE JEDI is in theaters this weekend for its (gulp) 40th anniversary.


For some reason it bothers me less that it was 40 years since I was 14 than it does that it's been 30 years since I was 24. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Ahhhh, a treasure. It's sitting right over there.

I was always a little confused that they went one way for Star Wars (original LP cue combinations with a couple of additions from the film) and another way for The Empire Strikes Back (LP tracks are split up into separate cues).


It's even weirder to me that they expanded LP edits of cues ("Inner City" and "City in the Clouds"). I don't think I've encountered another expansion that did that. Oh, and the Mynok cave music isn't on the set in any form despite being on the original album for Empire. Overall, still a great set.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   Maestro Sartori   (Member)

From a website I follow featuring user contributed chronologies, here's the original trilogy according to them:

STAR WARS:
https://chrono-score.blogspot.com/2012/06/star-wars-iv-new-hope.html

EMPIRE:
https://chrono-score.blogspot.com/2012/06/star-wars-v-empire-strikes-back.html

JEDI:
https://chrono-score.blogspot.com/2012/06/star-wars-vi-return-of-jedi.html

Hope this helps. They include the 93 Arista set, and the 97 Special Editions, as well as originals.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2023 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

That's kind of a tall order....

And so is the box! The vertical packaging was too handsome to discard, not to mention the terrific booklet, but I've never known quite where to squeeze this into my CD shelving. MTFBWY.

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2023 - 4:24 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Does anyone know of any sound clips online of the 1993 JEDI release for comparison? I would be interested in tracking that down because the RCA sounds so poor I hardly listen to it anymore.

The whole thing is on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drFBpNNioWU&list=PLwon-8yqcJVLi5kI0h8nQyBSdPxv8D5zn

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2023 - 4:49 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

I'll just summarize my opinions about the long box from other threads...

A New Hope: It's...ok? The editing mistakes really do hurt this one IMHO. From the use of incorrect takes, to the headscratching decision to try to replicate the album edits of certain tracks. This is the only one where the 1997 release (taken from the film mix) leaves it in the dust.

Empire Strikes Back: Both releases are plain ol weird. While the 1993 of New Hope based itself off the double lp sequence (for better or worse), ESB doesn't bother, offering instead wildly different sequencing, a lot of material that wasn't on the lp, and actually managing to leave something out that was (Mynock Cave). Oh and yeah, the channels are flopped too. 1997 suffers from a remix where the right channel seem to have dropped out for most of the score.

Return of the Jedi: Yup, 1993 sounds better if only because it wasn't CEDAR'd to death. That being said, the general crappiness of the source tapes is still a limiting factor. In fact it makes the expanded material stick out like a sore thumb (in this case, the album masters were used for the previous lp's tracks and those appear to have been sourced from better tapes).

A definitive Star Wars is still out there. Maybe someday it'll turn up.

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2023 - 5:06 AM   
 By:   Dampfwalze   (Member)

Question for the experts:
do I miss a release?
I know I miss the release with the special edition like covers, but I heard the ones I got with the holographic covers are re-releases of that CDs. True?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2023 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

My girlfriend at the time bought this for me for Christmas. I was the envy of many of my friends.


And probably still are, not to mention around hereā€¦

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2023 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   PollyAnna   (Member)

I too have and love the long box set and thought it a real treasure when I bought it. My opinion hasn't changed. I know it's not complete but it's a wonderful set. I still prefer lapti nek and ewok celebration over the replacements.

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2023 - 5:51 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Does anyone know of any sound clips online of the 1993 JEDI release for comparison? I would be interested in tracking that down because the RCA sounds so poor I hardly listen to it anymore.

If you do want the set, it's going for really cheap prices on the eBay.

 
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