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 Posted:   Nov 30, 2020 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

"45 days only". Why is the second week of January a cut-off date for buying the CD?

That’s a good question that you’ll have to ask Roger.

Also, in regards to an earlier comment you made about Julius Caesar following at some point, I think we might get Jason and the Argonauts first as that one’s temporarily out of stock on the Intrada website whereas Caesar is still readily available.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2020 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

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 Posted:   Dec 1, 2020 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I've moved almost all my listening through Apple Music (including my personal collection of CDs), or Spotify, or Youtube. Didn't miss at all not having a CD player in my 2020 auto lease.

I am assuming that if I purchase and download a high res digital album, it will still be in my cloud collection at 256 kpbs.

So in other words, probably not worth upgrading?

I ask because this is still probably my very favorite Rozsa album, and I have so, so many! But in no way an audiophile (one reason it suits me to work in radio, where audio has always been squashed).

[And I'm not going for the CD in this case, because I wish I didn't have to buy CDs at all any more - getting to the age where I am questioning why am I adding more stuff to the endless stacks if I don't have to.]

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2020 - 5:39 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Received the new Ivanhoe CD from Intrada already (Wednesday delivery after ordering on Monday). Extraordinarily fast service.
My first listen and comparison with my old copy suggests a slightly more open sound from the new one, as if some of the individual instruments are positioned a little further apart from each other.
Also, the loudest passages of the battle music seem a tad cleaner and less dense in the new CD.
Bear in mind I'm listening on headphones (Sennheiser HD600) so what I'm hearing might be less apparent via loudspeakers.
It was a marvelous CD the first time around with nothing obvious that needed improving. So, I'm happy to find some subtle improvements in this new edition.
I'll be interested to hear people's comparisons of the CD with the hi-res download.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2020 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

The high res version is out now

https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/ivanhoe-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-re-recording-miklos-rozsa/rzgxgy7t3kp5a

https://www.hdtracks.com/#/album/5fc7d1ff1a3f45c84610f72e

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2020 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)


https://www.hdtracks.com/#/album/5fc7d1ff1a3f45c84610f72e






A couple of dollars cheaper than the CD, and also no shipping costs.
After shipping and California tax, I paid almost ten dollars more for the lower resolution CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2020 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

I greatly appreciate the high res download option! This is a fantastic recording and I'm curious to hear how they've spruced it up.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2020 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I got a free month on Qobuz just to hear the difference between CD quality and Hi Res.

And doing a direct comparison on my computer using my Samsung Bluetooth earbuds, I can barely detect a difference. Not sure I would know which is which in a blind sampling.

But that's not a knock on the quality at all. Either version sounds fantastic! Just answers my question of whether this makes a difference for me with my non-audiophile ears and equipment. And it doesn't.

As to the remix, Basil describes it very well.

And it is one of the towering achievements in film music, especially heroic epics.

So if you dig this kind of thing, it's an absolute must have in whatever form works best for you.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2020 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

I got a free month on Qobuz just to hear the difference between CD quality and Hi Res.

And doing a direct comparison on my computer using my Samsung Bluetooth earbuds, I can barely detect a difference. Not sure I would know which is which in a blind sampling.

But that's not a knock on the quality at all. Either version sounds fantastic! Just answers my question of whether this makes a difference for me with my non-audiophile ears and equipment. And it doesn't.

As to the remix, Basil describes it very well.

And it is one of the towering achievements in film music, especially heroic epics.

So if you dig this kind of thing, it's an absolute must have in whatever form works best for you.


Keep in mind you need to have a special player to actually take advantage of hi resolution format. If you're just playing it using the same player you use for anything else, it's just going to sound like the CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2020 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Here's a primer on the subject. Is it necessary to know the precise format of this release?

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-5BM14vRpZ7r/learn/high-resolution-audio-guide.html

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 2:55 AM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

The HighRes 24/96 remastered download sounds definately less dense than the original CD release. And it comes at a very reasonable price for a HighRes download smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Here's a primer on the subject. Is it necessary to know the precise format of this release?

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-5BM14vRpZ7r/learn/high-resolution-audio-guide.html


I just checked Qobuz, and IVANHOE is available in pretty much whatever format suits you there. FLAC, ALAC, AIFF, WAV... or lossy formats such as AAC or MP3, if you prefer smaller files for devices with limited space.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2020 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Absolutely, Roger, understood.

I've heard that kind of thing in my work in radio and music recording, and it does make a difference.

Just not to me personally enough to warrant the investment, not in the music but in the equipment. I'm about convenience.

But in whatever version I've got to agree it sounds great and better than it ever has, and it has always sounded great!

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2021 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Now listed as Sold Out at Intrada.

.. But...

Intrada's Amazon online store has 12 copies of Ivanhoe ! Get em fast!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2021 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Any comments from someone who has both cds?

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2021 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Super happy to have a disc of this.

The remastering really opens the recording up.

I have both CD's. The original has murky, distant sound compared to this. This one's a punch in the solar plexus compared to the original.

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2021 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Better string sonorities with the hi-res remastering. All the better.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2021 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

The trumpet voluntary that begins "The Rivals" sounds splendid in the new mix.

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2021 - 3:23 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I got a free month on Qobuz just to hear the difference between CD quality and Hi Res.

And doing a direct comparison on my computer using my Samsung Bluetooth earbuds, I can barely detect a difference. Not sure I would know which is which in a blind sampling.


Yeah, but that's like watching a 4K movie on an SD screen, of course you're not going to see (or hear) a difference there. If your main listen is done on a computer with earbuds, there is of course no need to upgrade your files to high-res. Even AAC or MP3 might be fine there. (Depends on the earbuds though, they should be the key here. Not sure how good some of the better Samsung bluetooth earbuds are these days and which codecs they use. Might be pretty good by now.)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2021 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

So what is the ideal medium for listening to files like this -- if, as in my case, the computer is in a different room from my audio system?

 
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