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 Posted:   Nov 23, 2018 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

When I saw it, a couple actually walked out half way through. Not sure exactly what they were expecting!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2018 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Is this movie any good? I took a date to it back when it came out, but we made out during the whole thing.

Lots of full frontal nudity!
Check it out.[/end quote

That is extremely sick![

I guess we are being reminded that mental defectives also collect soundtrack CD's.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2018 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

When the LLL credit first appeared on the film's reissue posters, I wondered if Williams would allow the usual C&C presentation this time. This one is treated sort of as sacred ground in many ways, and the score is less a "then this happened, then this happened" than it is a musical meditation on lives lost and humanity in the face of brutality. It's the sort of album that makes you remember the emotions evoked by the film, not one that helps you relive the story musically.

Over the last two decades, I've also discovered I have three friends whose only soundtrack album this is.

So I'm not surprised this is the route they went. And as TerraEpon points out, many expanded albums have offered less new material than this one.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2018 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   John Webster   (Member)

Eh, I would have vastly preferred a complete, chronological presentation (and I'm with those who wanted the waltzes too).

I'll still pick it up, as I don't own the original album on disc. But with the HP set being so expensive, I'll probably hold off for a bit.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2018 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Eh, I would have vastly preferred a complete, chronological presentation (and I'm with those who wanted the waltzes too).

I'll still pick it up, as I don't own the original album on disc. But with the HP set being so expensive, I'll probably hold off for a bit.


Is it not complete, as far as Williams-composed music goes?

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2018 - 9:22 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Is this movie any good? I took a date to it back when it came out, but we made out during the whole thing.



That's immediately what came to my mind.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2018 - 10:44 PM   
 By:   Merry Goldsmith   (Member)

I have the '93 CD (MCAD-10969) and it runs around 64:30 minutes. Now the album version on CD 1 is listed around 3 minutes longer. "Schindler's Workforce", "Oyf'n Pripetshok And Nacht Aktion" and "Theme Of Schindler's List (Reprise)" are listed longer than on the old album. Was there another longer version of this score in 1993?

There were misprints on track times on some releases of the artwork. I think the Ultradisc that this release is mastered from is the one with the correct times, but the original 1993 CD mislabeled the times.


Oh, yes. I've only checked this score on my iPod. But on the CD booklet the track times are listed as on this new La-La Land release. And they are not correct. So La-La Land has reproduced this error, perhaps due to contractual reasons.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2018 - 11:00 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Is this movie any good? I took a date to it back when it came out, but we made out during the whole thing.

Lots of full frontal nudity!
Check it out.[/end quote

That is extremely sick!


I guess you never watched SEINFELD.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2018 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Is it not complete, as far as Williams-composed music goes?

I could be wrong, but I believe that with the tracks on the bonus disc, that will be pretty much all the Williams material.

The tangos and waltzes and other dance music were recorded at the sessions too, I believe Angela Morley arranged them and Williams conducted them.

The film versions of the two songs on the album, as I mentioned above, were clearly temp tracks that stayed in the finished film, since they both come from films that were released in 1991. Interestingly, neither recording is actually listed in the end credits, which only list 5 of the many songs used in the film. They were presumably pieces that Spielberg or the editors were familiar with and placed over the film while cutting it. I'm genuinely curious if the album versions were ever intended to replace them in the film, or if they were only ever meant for the soundtrack album.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2018 - 2:46 AM   
 By:   zachip   (Member)

you know what really bothers me in this release?

John Williams recorded an alternative song instead of "Jerusalem of Gold", this was due to the public in Israel,
criticize the use of the song in the final, as it's not relevant to the holocaust at all.

The one song that is constantly heard during the memorials in Israel is the song written by Hannah Szenes (Hungarian Jewish WWII resistance fighter) called "A Walk to Caesarea (Eli Eli)" composed by David Zehavi, and it's very recognizes as a Holocaust related song in Israel and for Jewish around the world.

in 1993, Steven Spielberg invited the Israeli singer Netanella to Los Angeles to record the song with John Williams!
to be included in the Israeli Print (instead of jerusalem of gold) and also in some European countries prints.

I attended the Israeli Premiere and Williams arrangement was sublime.
After 25 years, i thought we will get to hear this version and in it's proper placement (25th double cd).

shame...

BTW, a little trivia....
The Williams version appeared only once, on the 1995 israeli benefit compilation album "Shalom Haver" (words immortalize by Bill Clinton meaning Goodbye Friend) that was released after israeli prime minister Yitzchak Rabin was murdered and the album was a benefit album to the foundation based on his name.

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2018 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

Is this movie any good? I took a date to it back when it came out, but we made out during the whole thing.

Lots of full frontal nudity!
Check it out.[/end quote

That is extremely sick![

I guess we are being reminded that mental defectives also collect soundtrack CD's.


you are shocked at the comments made here. hey this is filmscoremonthly.com!

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2018 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I got home last night after being away for the holiday. I had assumed, based on the assembly of this new release and talk of a so-called "unofficial" release that was evidently much longer, that a lot of music had been left off.

Thanks to subsequent posters here who have actual knowledge (as opposed to my assumptions), plus finding a tracklisting of a variant of the "unofficial" one, I take it back!

Yes, leaked recording sessions include additional music… if you count multiple takes of each cue as "additional." If that's what you want, would you also like Spielberg to string together a cut of the film with each take of Ben Kingsley's performances, or each draft of the screenplay? Film scores are recorded by humans, and sometimes it takes a while for the composer to be satisfied with the recording of each cue. Some here seem to have become so obsessed with "alternates" that multiple takes, with their inevitable variations in performance (some of which are corrections, some of which are just happenstance), now apparently qualify as music we're being denied.

But what about Intrada's recent "The Lonely Guy" release? you ask. Well, after the main program, I think that release is pretty absurd. It's certainly easy enough to stop listening after the main program, so no harm done. But is this now what we expect?

Maybe there is some significant Williams-composed music that is missing from this new album, and I am wrong a second time. But certainly the existence of much longer recording sessions is not evidence of that.

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2018 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

The Schiffy Scolding

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2018 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

The Schiffy Scolding

He's convinced me to stick to the original release.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2018 - 4:39 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

John Mullin, I hope someday you get to watch Schindler’s List. It is a powerful, gut-wrenching movie; however, don’t “check it out,” because of “Lots of full frontal nudity,” as Mr. Marshall states. Considering the subject of Schindler’s List, that truly is the most disgusting remark I’ve read here at FSM.

We all need to be aware of the Holocaust and of, “Man’s true inhumanity to man.” It is still mind- boggling that a government could try to erase, in such an inhumane way, a whole culture. It is hard to believe such evil existed or was ever embraced or tolerated.

Yes, there was nudity as the Nazis stripped the Jews naked to shame them more and herded them like cattle, but see it because we all need to know about this horrid chapter in history and to never let it happen again.

John Williams provided an outstanding score for this subject.

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2018 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Is this movie any good? I took a date to it back when it came out, but we made out during the whole thing.



For those unclear of the concept....of humour
Brm

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 3:28 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

As per LLL flyer email- This starts Shipping December 3rd.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 6:44 AM   
 By:   akhnaton   (Member)

Is this movie any good? I took a date to it back when it came out, but we made out during the whole thing.

Lots of full frontal nudity!
Check it out.[/end quote

That is extremely sick!


I guess you never watched SEINFELD.


I vote to throw Mr. Marshall off this discussion group.
Sick F***K
BAN HIM !!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Yes, throw him out. There is no place for people who hide their maliciousness behind words like having a sense of humor or freedom of speech.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

You continue to embarrass yourselves.
It was John Mullin who made the initial joke ; which was taken from SEINFELD (" I made out..."). I just piggybacked. [Larry David did a whole ep about telling a Holocaust joke.THE PRODUCERS. Ever hear of it?]
Joan , naively, thought he was being sincere.
I tried to give her a chance to retract her post . To save her embarrassment.
But you all just want to gang up on me.
No apologies.
Brm

P.s. spare me your lectures. My family are Eastern European Jews.

 
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