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 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

There have been a couple of threads about this show earlier, but I wanted one that focussed exclusively on the Williams material.

This was an anthology show that ran from 1953-1962 (long duration!), but no one seems to know exactly how many episodes there were. Wikipedia lists 209. It's mostly famous for having Ronald Reagan as the host for a number of years.

Does anyone know what episodes Williams scored? Is the show available to view in any format?

Here's what we know of Williams' involvement so far:

Season 8 (1959-1960):

At least three episodes during the spring of 1960. Which ones are unknown at this time.

Season 9 (1960-1961):

Episode 2: Journal of Hope

A frontiersman marries a young Native American girl after she nurses him back to health from an injury. Starring Leslie Nielsen. The episode can be viewed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSbBg52Bvbo

Episode 5: Goodbye, My Love

I've not been able to find this episode. A successful writer with a weakness for booze gets some serious news from his doctor. One more bender could be more than his weak heart can handle. He's also urged to reconcile with his estranged wife.

Episode 10: Journey to a Wedding

A rather sentimental story about a young woman who reluctantly travels to meet a stranger who lives in the countryside for the prospect of a wedding. Over the course of the episode, they have to come to terms with their relationship. It's been a few months since I saw this, but I do remember some pastoral parts and a rather overt love theme for the couple.

Season 10 (1961-1962)

Episode 23: Ten Days in the Sun

Max Grossblatt is an elderly tailor from Chicago who wants to visit his son in California. Unfortunately, he cannot afford the trip and can only dream of going west. Can be viewed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCuj62hRpLY

Episode 34: The First Hundred Years

Unconfirmed. Not found or seen. Ben Duncan is an engineering student who has a night job at a supermarket in order to support his family.

He may have worked on one or two more episodes during this last season, but they are unknown at the present time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Here's some music from Johnny Williams score to JOURNAL OF HOPE (1960) GE THEATER Episode. Pretty much a Western Period themed episode. Nice rich stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK5no_kFbRY

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Here's a Goldsmith GE Theatre Score:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=89125&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Here's some music from Johnny Williams score to JOURNAL OF HOPE (1960) GE THEATER Episode. Pretty much a Western Period themed episode. Nice rich stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK5no_kFbRY


Thanks, I do remember you posting about this awhile back. I do wonder where you got hold of this, though, and if you want to share! smile

"Journal of Hope" is from Season 9, Episode 2 (1960).

One down, several more to go!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2013 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Anyone have any more tips on how to find out about which episodes Williams scored?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2013 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Very difficult since most episodes don't have composer credits.

have you considered writing to Williams himself?
Although I doubt that he would remember too..

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2013 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

He's about as hard to reach as Barack Obama and the Pope combined, and even if I did, I'm sure he wouldn't remember, nor have any interest in remembering.

I was thinking that anyone with access to certain US libraries (with an extensive TV and media section) could get this information from there. Even if IMDB doesn't have any composer credits, maybe the actual episodes do?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2013 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Even if IMDB doesn't have any composer credits, maybe the actual episodes do?

That's what I'm saying.
i have seen some episodes, but none had composer credits.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2013 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Jeff Eldridge   (Member)

but none had composer credits.

From February 1953 through May 1958, very few of these episodes had original music, which is why there were no composer credits. Original weekly scoring commenced with onset of the 1958-1959 season, when Elmer Bernstein wrote a new theme for the series and began contributing the first of roughly 30 original episode scores, themes from which were released on a Columbia LP called, unsurprisingly, "Themes from General Electric Theater." You can read more about the scoring of this series on pages 147-148 of Jon Burlingame's book "TV's Biggest Hits" (which you should have on your bookshelf if you're at all interested in TV music from this period).

Williams began contributing occasional scores for this series in 1960. (I've found sources that indicate he may have scored at least three episodes during the latter half of the 1959-1960 season, but don't have firm evidence.) Toward the beginning of the 1960-1961 season, he scored "Journal of Hope" (mentioned above), "Good-by My Love" and "Journey to a Wedding." And in early 1962, he scored "Ten Days in the Sun." He likely worked on at least one or two more episodes around this time, but the four mentioned here are the only ones I've been able to verify.

A wonderful feature of this show during the original-scoring period was the use of a theme from the episode score over the end credits. Williams' music for "Journal of Hope" somewhat prefigures his Alcoa Premiere theme composed a year later.

"Good-by My Love" (starring Ronald Reagan) features a tender theme for strings and piano over the opening and closing credits, with some laid-back jazz source cues alongside some occasional dramatic moments during the score proper.



"Journey to a Wedding" boasts a lovely melody:



while "Ten Days in the Sun" has playful, bustling music for a Chicago tailor (Ed Wynn) who makes a surprise visit to his son in California.




 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2013 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Awesome, Jeff, thanks for the extra info.

At least we're now one step further in charting Williams' involvement with this series, even though only four of a possible 9 episodes have been verified.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2013 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Thank you very much for all those information! smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2013 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Here's the End Credits from "Journey to a Wedding".
it's indeed a lovely melody, which reminds me a bit of Heidi.

http://picosong.com/F6WR/

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2014 - 6:32 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Well, it seems Intrada's cd with Elmer Bernstein themes for GE was just announced..
Maybe there is hope for Williams then?
Although I see this was released as an LP.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Well, it seems Intrada's cd with Elmer Bernstein themes for GE was just announced..
Maybe there is hope for Williams then?
Although I see this was released as an LP.


I don't like to start new threads where one more or less exists though my question is slightly OT.

For "Themes General Electric Theater- Elmer Bernstein". Would one file that under "Composer Compilation" or "Television Soundtrack"?

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

The correct thread would be right here:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=105746&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

For "Themes General Electric Theater- Elmer Bernstein". Would one file that under "Composer Compilation" or "Television Soundtrack"?


Since all of the music on the album was composed by a single composer, Elmer Bernstein, I don't see how it could legitimately be considered a "Composer Compilation."

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

@ Jason LeBlanc- Ah thxs! I did do a search first and I couldn’t find that thread.

@ DiMucci- I dunno. I was thinking it was a compilation of his music from a series where there were other composers. That's why I asked.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

@ DiMucci- I dunno. I was thinking it was a compilation of his music from a series where there were other composers. That's why I asked.


It's true that there were other composers for different episodes of General Electric Theater, but that's true for most television series. The specific album that you want to file, however, has the music of only one of those composers. So, I guess it's personal preference. As for me, I file all television series recordings under the series name, regardless of how many composers appear on the recording. (For example, all of my FSM "Man From U.N.C.L.E." CDs are filed under the series name, even though they are all compilations of different composers.) But that may be because I file film scores in general by film title and not by composer.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

@ DiMucci- I dunno. I was thinking it was a compilation of his music from a series where there were other composers. That's why I asked.


It's true that there were other composers for different episodes of General Electric Theater, but that's true for most television series. The specific album that you want to file, however, has the music of only one of those composers. So, I guess it's personal preference. As for me, I file all television series recordings under the series name, regardless of how many composers appear on the recording. (For example, all of my FSM "Man From U.N.C.L.E." CDs are filed under the series name, even though they are all compilations of different composers.) But that may be because I file film scores in general by film title and not by composer.


Thanks for the feedback. That works for me!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2015 - 6:46 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

For anyone interested I've found this site that has 2 sets of GE episodes for sale, and they include the 4 confirmed Williams ones:

http://www.shop.thomasfilmclassics.com/product.sc?productId=2057&categoryId=-1
http://www.shop.thomasfilmclassics.com/product.sc?productId=2058&categoryId=-1

 
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