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 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

MLP:FiM, of course, being My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. This is the thread I really ought to have done right from the beginning, because this is what I am ultimately trying to get out of promoting the show and its music so frequently here.

There is a market out there to warrant releasing a soundtrack CD for the show: not only the kids and their parents who watch it with them, but also the hundreds of thousands of "bronies" (adults who watch MLP - the majority of them care only for Generation 4 aka Friendship is Magic) who have a presence just about everywhere on the internet. "It's for girls" is not a valid excuse to not look into it, and the show's music certainly does not reflect anything "girly" most of the time.

Here are a few reasons why MLP:FiM needs a soundtrack release.


More on the series here:
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/My_Little_Pony_Friendship_is_Magic
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1751105/



Music by William Anderson - http://www.andersonscores.com/
Orchestrations and Additional Music by Kristopher Gee - http://www.kgfilmmusik.com/

Main Title Theme by Daniel Ingram
Songs by Daniel Ingram - http://www.danielingrammusic.com/






REASON 1

Soundtrack CD Petition - the very obvious reason:

http://www.petitiononline.com/p1nk13pi/petition.html

I started this petition nearly a year ago and as of this posting it has accumulated 5,670 signatures. That number only increases daily as more and more fans stumble upon it.



To Hasbro Studios and soundtrack record labels

"My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" is a 2010 animated TV series developed by Lauren Faust, and it has amassed an unexpectedly large fan base. The show's music, written by Daniel Ingram and William Anderson, has captured the hearts of many people around the world.

We feel that the achievements of Mr. Ingram and Mr. Anderson are of outstanding significance in the history of music composed for animation; a diverse variety of musical genres are incorporated into the songs and the instrumental score written for this series.

We hereby request that Hasbro Studios, as well as any participating soundtrack record labels, publish and preserve this music on compact disc for our generation and future generations to enjoy. Ideally, we wish to see a final product that encompasses both Mr. Ingram and Mr. Anderson's work across the show's first and second seasons in either a single CD or a 2CD package.







REASON 2

The American Federation of Musicians would not be involved.

Because of a limited music budget, neither Daniel nor Will has contracted a real, live orchestra for MLP:FiM (unlike Transformers: Prime, another Hasbro Studios property with a soundtrack CD forthcoming). All of the songs and underscore written for the series are produced with digital music libraries (ProTools, Cubase, etc.) and custom sample templates that replicate the sound of an orchestra. Chances are it would not be very costly to license MLP:FiM for a CD release.






REASON 3

According to its homepage, FSM has nearly 15 million page views, accumulated over a time span of 11 years and one month:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3833/fsmpageviews.png

Equestria Daily, the most popular website for MLP:FiM news and fan-generated content, has nearly 135 million page views (EDIT 3/18: now 142 million) accumulated over a time span of just over one year - the blog was founded on January 19th, 2011.
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/3857/eqdpageviews.png


The fanbase for MLP:FiM is substantially larger than the film score fanbase.


Obviously the film score community does not have 15 million people, nor does the MLP:FiM community have 135 million. To put this in perspective: I sent an e-mail to Sethisto (founder and head manager) to inquire about how many people actually visit EqD. According to Google Analytics, an average of 700,000 people visit the site every month.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3877/700kuniques.png

Let's just now say that, at the absolute worst, only 0.8% (700,000 times 0.008) of these unique visitors wants to buy a soundtrack release, and at the absolute best, 5% (700,000 times 0.05) would buy it. (I am using 0.8% based on the number of signatures received on the soundtrack CD petition - see reason 1)

This brings in a number between 5,600 and 35,000 people interested in a soundtrack CD.


That is ONLY Equestria Daily, by the way. This is not including the other websites founded on the roots of MLP:FiM, which includes, but is not limited to:

PonyChan.net
MLPForums.com (founded October 2011; nearly 3,250,000 total page views; 82,000 unique visitors (40,000 in February alone))
DerpyHoovesNews.com (founded April 2011; 1,060,000 page views)
EquestriaGaming.com (1,055,000 page views)
Rainbow Dash Network
Everfree Radio
Bronyville

Also, the Facebook page for MLP:FiM currently has over 116,000 "likes" (EDIT 3/18: now 123,000):
https://www.facebook.com/pages/My-Little-Pony-Friendship-is-Magic/162412160442724






REASON 4

Audio clips for popular underscore pieces representing the show's different musical styles (orchestral, synth, hard rock / heavy metal):






























REASON 5

YouTube's view count statistics for popular songs (as of March 31st, 2012):

Evil Enchantress Song (Flutterguy Version) - 1,614,119 views
Uploaded December 16th, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7PGKcikaGY
High-Definition Quality here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXmCKB5DWWA&hd=1

Laughter Song - 1,456,775 views
Uploaded November 6th, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tiynTPuUUM
High-Definition Quality here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WODiCCJfp94&hd=1

Rarity's Dressmaking Song - 1,002,464 views
Based on "Putting It Together" from Sunday In the Park With George - Stephen Sondheim

Uploaded February 4th, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSbXGsysAAk
High-Definition Quality here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2s1I_U8xSw&hd=1

Winter Wrap Up - 899,183 views
Uploaded November 30th, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyrAkwJ6WsY
High-Definition Quality here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe3KrT1rw-0&hd=1

Cupcake Song - 798,142 views
Uploaded January 20th, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOVDu7etQlc
High-Definition Quality here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmAcBK3AAd8&hd=1

Smile Song - 603,788 views
Uploaded February 18th, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNrXMOSkBas&hd=1

Hush Now Lullaby - 520,781 views
Uploaded February 26th, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQs-W7_gFrM&hd=1

The Gala Song - 457,197 views
Based on "Ever After" from Into the Woods - Stephen Sondheim

Uploaded May 6th, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u7XysaEVBs&hd=1
High-Definition Quality here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu3zt5T7gYM&hd=1

Cutie Mark Crusaders Song - 367,303 views
Uploaded March 4th, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uYt3hEmAtE&hd=1

Extended Intro Theme - 331,207 views
Uploaded February 25th, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4By8YHOnILo&hd=1

The Flim Flam Brothers - 250,494 views
Based on "Ya Got Trouble" from The Music Man

Uploaded January 28th, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssl1RxwMWNA&hd=1

Find a Pet Song - 186,832 views
Uploaded November 19th, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Ltv9fjVe4&hd=1






REASON 6

William Anderson, Daniel Ingram, and Steffan Andrews all have their own fan pages, consisting primarily of fans of MLP:FiM and created because of fans of the series and its music. Daniel Ingram has expressed interest in re-recording his Cutie Mark Crusaders Song for a future soundtrack album. Kristopher Gee also wants a soundtrack album produced.

Steffan also wants to see a soundtrack album happen!
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4446/steffancd.png
https://www.facebook.com/steffan.andrews.music/posts/303862956342525

William Anderson currently has 706 watchers on his DeviantArt profile (created February 6th, 2012):
http://willheim.deviantart.com/

Daniel Ingram currently has 14,844 "likes" on his Facebook page (created May 11th, 2011):
https://www.facebook.com/dannyimusic

Steffan Andrews currently has 2,337 "likes" on his Facebook page (created May 18th, 2011):
https://www.facebook.com/steffan.andrews.music






REASON 7

The demand for a soundtrack album is clearly shown in the petition (reason 1), the ever-growing size of the fanbase, as well as posts such as these:

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/08/official-soundtrack-petition-update-how.html
http://derpyhoovesnews.com/soundtrack-cd-petition/


You are looking at a gold mine of an opportunity. You can make money by releasing this music! Hasbro would make money as well, and if an album is assembled and mastered properly, the fans will buy it too! It's a win-win scenario!






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Now with that all said... I don't honestly expect an album to materialize this year. Perhaps not even in 2013 - I fully understand that producing a CD takes many months to do and it is a very slow process to undertake. But hey, if this somehow manages to happen much sooner, fantastic! I've been in personal contact with several members of the music crew on far more than one occasion and they are all fantastic people. I want to respect their wishes, the wishes of Hasbro, and the wishes of whichever record label may want to pursue getting this out.

I have no intention of backing down and I will continue to push for a soundtrack release - even in the face of misinformed social stereotypes and gender/age discrimination. Anyone who thinks that this music does not deserve to be heard on its own simply because it's attached to a children's show is just flat out wrong (and need I remind those who think so that the creator of the show aimed it at kids and their parents? http://bit.ly/woswo6). It's exactly this type of backwards, outdated thinking that has prevented scores and soundtrack albums for other animated TV shows from ever being made.

And really now - how are my wishes any more different than those who wanted Back to the Future, The Goonies, Spartacus, Predator, Die Hard, The Black Hole released? All of those got albums, and I am certain MLP:FiM will get an album too. It's only a matter of time.

Now if you'll excuse me, I am off to send this thread to Hasbro's PR.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Let's do it. I'm in all the way.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   BobJ   (Member)

I hope you get your wish on this. We all have those favorites we wish would get released, but given this shows popularity I would be surprised if it didn't happen.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Interesting read... however, I don't see anywhere the composers wants and needs for the soundtrack release. Wouldn't it help your cause to have some sort of testimonial from the composers themselves? That should really be reason number one!

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

My Little Pony has over 15 million viewers per episode? I don't even think The Hub has that many subscribers (since it's an add-on channel).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   Erik Donovan   (Member)

First ignorant comment:

Reason 1

Did you really need to open another MLP thread? Could you not have added this to a previous MLP thread?

Reason 2

See reason 1

I thought someone else had something to say, so I looked in, so why the change of your user ID Pinkie Pie?

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 7:22 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I must confess, I've learned more about MY LITTLE PONY in the last few months than I ever thought I would have. big grin

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 7:25 PM   
 By:   sprocket   (Member)

Basil, it is not uncommon for fans to underwrite the releases that they particularly want to get released.

So many labels seem to have been started for this reason.

So in all seriousness, start saving.

PS - Uh... no music clips??

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   Erik Donovan   (Member)

*sorry, no comment.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

My Little Pony has over 15 million viewers per episode?

...I have no idea how you got that out of what I posted. Please elaborate?





PS - Uh... no music clips??

I've been posting a ton of those here for the past few months now. A lot of the links are dead thanks to a YouTube channel shutdown... I need to clean it up sometime.
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=83086&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 11:03 PM   
 By:   dogman15   (Member)

You forgot the reason that more than just bronies would buy a soundtrack. Parents with kids who watch the show - who may know nothing about bronies - would also buy a soundtrack CD if they saw it among all the other kids' CDs at the store.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 11:12 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

To Basil/Pinkie Pie: you said My Little Pony has more viewers in a certain period than this site ever has. I may have put "per episode" as a mistake but you seem to be overstating the popularity.

My Little Pony is a lot like Joss Whedon's Firefly and Serenity: the fandom is loud and proud, but not really that big (Firefly was canceled midway through the series and the film was a flop).

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2012 - 11:49 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

A song soundtrack seems likely to me, given time. This is very common for kids shows. (And before you object, Basil, I know that the show is made to also appeal to adults. There are many shows like this. I'm always pleased when my kids want to watch "Phineas & Ferb," because I think that show is legitimately funny on an adult level. Nevertheless, it is a kids show.) Parents are one of the last demographics that actually purchases CDs for their kids, rather than downloads pirated music files from music blogs.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2012 - 1:49 AM   
 By:   Senojanaidni   (Member)

Hey Basil i hope someone will hear your demand even for a very limited édition, you know what you want and talked well about it, good luck.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2012 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

Going by a search on Amazon, there've been various My Little Pony CD albums released over the years. Even back in the days when there wasn't a single note from any of the shows that was worth releasing in any form at all. So eventually, we'll probably see something. The songs, at least; although I'm less sure that any of the BGM would show up on such a release.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2012 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

Ha! This is a hilarious skewering of obsessive soundtrack fans, their demands to have every obscure scrap of music from their childhoods released on CD, and the extreme over saturation of the speciality soundtrack marketplace -- thanks for the morning laughs!

The real kicker was when you went into all the reasoning and stats about how many copies the release might sell based on website hits and fans of the show... really funny stuff! Particularly when you stack the number of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" fans in the world up against the number of people who actually bought the Ron Jones TNG set. Reminded me a bit of that brilliant "Reasonable Horticulturalist" parody from a month or two back: http://www.movie-wave.net/?p=2016

And you're totally right on: so many obscure titles from the 70s, 80s, and 90s have been put out on expansive CD sets in recent years that pretty soon we'll be down to some _real_ bottom-of-the-barrel material like this! I mean, if KIDCO can get a CD release, why not "Friendship Is Magic," right? Anyway, thanks for the entertainment and bravo!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2012 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Well, it won't be an FSM disc, unless Lukas stuns us all.


As far as the film score labels, I could see LaLa actually taking a chance on this. An outside chance.

But , that's the only outlet from this community where it might even be considered. BSX, maybe...Ford is pretty shrewd. Seems like you'd be better off contacting something like Shout Factory, heck even Varese Vintage.

It is odd there is no CD or even MP3 album release for this series. Since all these threads started popping up, I started noticing both friends of mine, and people on other totally unrelated message boards and chat rooms who are fans of the series.

So hang in there, sooner or later some label somewhere will jump on this, and release a collection of songs, if not score.

But...and this is NOT a critique of the series or fandom at all...I really think posting it here won't do you a lick of good whatsoever. But it doesn't bother me in the least big grin

Some label will probably do it...eventually.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2012 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

You forgot the reason that more than just bronies would buy a soundtrack. Parents with kids who watch the show - who may know nothing about bronies - would also buy a soundtrack CD if they saw it among all the other kids' CDs at the store.

As much as I would love to have such a thing distributed to actual brick-and-mortar stores, I can't see it happening. The Hub channel is reported to be growing and doing very well, but realistically I don't think MLP:FiM would ever reach enough CD sales as, say, Justin Bieber or Lady Gaga.

The best we can hope for now is a release at all - primarily available online, maybe even through Amazon.






To Basil/Pinkie Pie: you said My Little Pony has more viewers in a certain period than this site ever has. I may have put "per episode" as a mistake but you seem to be overstating the popularity.

I'm not exactly overstating its massive online following when it's written in stone cold, hard facts.






A song soundtrack seems likely to me, given time. This is very common for kids shows. (And before you object, Basil, I know that the show is made to also appeal to adults. There are many shows like this. I'm always pleased when my kids want to watch "Phineas & Ferb," because I think that show is legitimately funny on an adult level. Nevertheless, it is a kids show.) Parents are one of the last demographics that actually purchases CDs for their kids, rather than downloads pirated music files from music blogs.

I'd be happy if anything were released at this point - even a songs-only compilation. I'd be slightly disappointed if there were no score included on a future album, but I've been re-watching every single episode since I got into it, so I can always hear the BGM there. There's also the added bonus that I can isolate most of the score and hear it on its own, thanks to iTunes' 5.1 audio surround encoding, but since it's frequently littered with SFX/dialog bleed, it'll never sound the same as hearing that music mastered properly on CD.

Another point I'd like to mention is that the majority of the show's online presence are "bronies" - adult male fans in the age range of 15 to 40. A songs-only album might be well and good for the kids, but we love and appreciate the background music just as much (and a LOT of fans would complain about no score being included on a CD). Hasbro has our demographic to keep in mind as well as the children, most of whom don't go to popular sites like Equestria Daily, and things like this are a good start:
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/new-merchandise-recap-post.html

I want to support Hasbro and the show with my money somehow. I'm in Canada, and The Hub doesn't air here; I can't buy the series from iTunes because it's region-restricted to the US. The Treehouse channel here does show MLP:FiM, but they're stuck on season one reruns (season 2 is on its 19th episode currently) and they're a PC bunch who censors any instance of the word "losers" being spoken. I'm not going to pay for that channel just to watch one show, and I already have all 45 (currently) episodes downloaded so I can watch them at my own leisure.

Everyone interested in the series who is not living in the United States is screwed, basically. The international bronies all have to resort to YouTube or other illegal means of watching the show. If an album were to be released, everyone could buy it and support the show.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2012 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

Equestria Daily plugged this thread in their latest Nightly Roundup - hence why its view count has shot up to nearly 1000.
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/03/nightly-roundup-260.html





Basil Wrathbone
Comments
This show is for fags. Don't release it!


Why did you sign the petition then? Are you a closet brony? smile

(I'll read/respond to the four replies I didn't get to yet later)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2012 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

Basil Wrathbone
Comments
This show is for fags. Don't release it!


Wow, well that's it: I demand that Basil Wrathbone be removed as the producer of the 2013 Academy Awards!

 
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