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 Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

...repugnant, and repulsive movies I've ever seen in my life.

...says the guy with the picture of an axe-wielding Jason Voorhees as his avatar. razz


I know you're being silly with that, but seriously at least Friday the 13th movies don't pretend they are high art, they know they are cheap thrills and guilty pleasures and total attempts at entertainment, anyone involved with a Jason picture is totally in on the joke. Everyone that made Drive took it way too seriously and that led to rampant pretension and the sadistic brutality of the film was, to me, awful and ugly and extremely unpleasant and none of that in a good way!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   Mikal   (Member)

I know you're being silly with that, but seriously at least Friday the 13th movies don't pretend they are high art, they know they are cheap thrills and guilty pleasures and total attempts at entertainment, anyone involved with a Jason picture is totally in on the joke. Everyone that made Drive took it way too seriously and that led to rampant pretension and the sadistic brutality of the film was, to me, awful and ugly and extremely unpleasant and none of that in a good way!

You'll notice that when I quoted you, I omitted the bit where you characterized Drive as pretentious...because I didn't feel it was applicable, for one, but mostly because I just don't want/see the point of getting into that conversation. But I do love the film admittedly, and felt that the brutality lent itself to the advancement of the plot in an organic way - the Driver and his mentor (Bryan Cranston) are mixed up with some really nasty, sordid guys, so there is going to be blood and savagery. In other words, the violence never feels gratuitous. Furthermore, Refn tends to gravitate towards violent stories, and while it could be thought of as apart of his aesthetic at this point, it still acts as a backdrop to his films. Now, something like Hostel...I would say that is more blatantly exploitative. Hell, the whole torture porn genre, for that matter. Slashers, I can and do enjoy on occasion, but the aforementioned type of film is just objectionable to me.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

I loved it. One of my favorite films of this decade.

Ditto. Love the soundtrack, too.

 
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