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 Posted:   Aug 12, 2011 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

this is being shown on tonight in UK, 2.35am ITV1
EDIT - THIS WAS ON AUGUST 12

set those videos/dvd recorders people, anyone who like 70s thrillers, has not seen this or heard Schifrin's so-far unreleased score.

Highly recommended, mostly for Joe Don Baker's mafia hitman Molly.


"You just keep thowing your feathers, mister...before I put you in the hospital.."

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2011 - 12:49 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

set those videos/dvd recorders people, anyone who like 70s thrillers, has not seen this or heard Schifrin's so-far unreleased score.
Highly recommended, mostly for Joe Don Baker's mafia hitman Molly.
"You just keep thowing your feathers, mister...before I put you in the hospital.."


Saw this around 1973 at Birmingham ABC, double bill with 'Duel'. Haven't seen it since so I did set my DVD recorder and look forward to watching it ths afternoon.

Thanks for the alert, Miguel.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2011 - 1:29 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

That didnt sound like a bad double bill peter.
Hope you enjoy Mr Matthau on whats probably going to be a wet saturday afternoon!

I particularly love the music during the bit where he and andy robinson are swapping from the car to the truck.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2011 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Just finished watching. Excellent movie, even better than I remembered. Lalo's score cries out for a CD release.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2011 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

It's always baffled me why Varrick didnt get an LP release, Peter - or now things are changing, a CD release.

I would imagine this would sell faster - or at least equal to - Telefon.

Could easily be paired with something else, Schifrin or otherwise.

Would anyone else buy this if it was released?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2011 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Hello Miguel. I was on holiday until recently and just found this post. So yes, I'd buy a CD release of CHARLEY VARRICK. I know of six other people on the Board who would buy one. That makes, let's see... seven. Add nine lurkers, plus twenty-four hard-core Schifrin fans and two casual collectors who don't bother with message boards. And my brother. That makes it 43 if my maths are correct.

Record producers - can you retire on that?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2011 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   shadowman   (Member)

Hello Miguel. I was on holiday until recently and just found this post. So yes, I'd buy a CD release of CHARLEY VARRICK. I know of six other people on the Board who would buy one. That makes, let's see... seven. Add nine lurkers, plus twenty-four hard-core Schifrin fans and two casual collectors who don't bother with message boards. And my brother. That makes it 43 if my maths are correct.

Record producers - can you retire on that?


Better make that 44.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2011 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   shadowman   (Member)

Double post

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2011 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   jpteacher568   (Member)

Not only have I seen CHARLEY VARRICK on its first theatrical run, but also own the dvd, and would gladly buy the cd. However, I would like to see other Schifrin scores released before this one. Maybe Schifrin's own label, Aleph would be interested in releasing CV.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2011 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

one of three Don Siegel film i am dying to see
the others are THE LINE UP & RIOT IN CELL BLOCK 13
c'mon Criterion or somebody!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2011 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

so if shadowman is buying two in a double post Graham, does that make 45 CDs?




 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2011 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

44, 45 -same old s-s-s-s-sixes and s-s-s-sevens Shaft, I mean Miguel.

I'm just thinking back (as one does of a lazy Sunday), and I believe that people are completely polarized about this score. We are aware of 44 or 45 people who would love to see a CD release, but I recall reading in the mainstream press the opinions of well-versed critics who loathe it. We could say "Bah- What do critics know?", but it caught my attention that some of them mentioned the music at all. Somebody said something like "the usually reliable Schifrin provides a score that is mere noise"- could that have been Pauline Kael? Dilys Powell? A female name rings a bell there. And browsing a book on Don Siegel recently, the author said that the score was nowhere near as good as the Siegel-directed THE BLACK WINDMILL as scored by Roy Budd.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2011 - 1:29 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

. . . I recall reading in the mainstream press the opinions of well-versed critics who loathe it. We could say "Bah- What do critics know?", but it caught my attention that some of them mentioned the music at all. Somebody said something like "the usually reliable Schifrin provides a score that is mere noise"- could that have been Pauline Kael? Dilys Powell? A female name rings a bell there. And browsing a book on Don Siegel recently, the author said that the score was nowhere near as good as the Siegel-directed THE BLACK WINDMILL as scored by Roy Budd.


For her, Pauline Kael spent an inordinate amount of space commenting on the score. After comparing "Charley Varrick" unfavorably to "Dirty Harry" (a film that she hated incidentally), she says:

"Even Lalo Schifrin, who wrote the score, falls down on the job. Maybe he got bored producing the musical trickery that makes directors look better than they are, or maybe his contempt for the assignment got out of hand, because he just throws in noise this time. When Siegel's gruesome sequences need suspense, Schifrin beats your ears."

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2011 - 3:41 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

That's the one I was thinking about, Bob. Thanks for confirming my memory.

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2011 - 3:58 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

I love the film CHARLEY VARRICK, but is there even enough music in it for a separate CD release?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2011 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

I love the film CHARLEY VARRICK, but is there even enough music in it for a separate CD release?

I've never added it up but I'd imagine a good 20 mins, maybe 30 mins there. What there is, is great, and I suspect it would be a perfect score to fill out a Schfirin CD with another, meatier score.

Dunno if there are any outstanding Schifrin contenders that would fit the bill and make a nice double up? Did Harry in Your Pocket ever get a release? any other suggestions?


"...Now you sit there, and start talking....with goodwill..."

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2014 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Are there any hints as whether this one is in the pipeline?

Thanks for any info!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2017 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Did I recently read on here someplace that this is being released, or did I dream it? I can't find the thread.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2017 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Did I recently read on here someplace that this is being released, or did I dream it? I can't find the thread.

Your dreaming its never been mentioned anywhere, other than this post. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2017 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Did I recently read on here someplace that this is being released, or did I dream it? I can't find the thread.

Definite dream, Onya. Dream on.

 
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