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 Posted:   Jun 3, 2011 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   Rusty Nail   (Member)

I've noticed several previously out of print scores have returned as Amazon CD-Rs including Mummy Returns, Home Alone, Field of Dreams, Lady in the Water, Sneakers and others. I guess its a good alternative than paying high prices for the original version in regards to Lady in the Water and Sneakers.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 12:06 AM   
 By:   MerM   (Member)

Question is, does it get in the way of any possible expansions?

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 2:17 AM   
 By:   Souchak   (Member)

(Another) Question is, who feels good with a CDR of a must-have score which may disintegrate in 5-10 years?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 3:11 AM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

(Another) Question is, who feels good with a CDR of a must-have score which may disintegrate in 5-10 years?

Not if you look after them.......I have a few CDRs that I made over 10 years ago and they still play fine and still look good!

I bought The Karate Kid and not only does it play great, it looks and feels like an official CD...which is exactly what it is!

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 3:25 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Hmmmmm. As Thor would posit....

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 3:49 AM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

...which is exactly what it is!

Oh no it isn't!

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 3:50 AM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

What concerns me is how long before some idiot Amazon Marketplace seller "accidently" lists one of these CD-Rs against the original item?

Things could start getting messy out there...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 4:23 AM   
 By:   Dennis Brain   (Member)

On Amazon.de they recently listed "Chinatown" for 20 $. You really had to take a closer look to read that is was a CD-R on demand. At this prize it is far to high. I don´t have any CD-R´s in my collection and i won´t purchase them in the future. It is like making a good colourcopy of a stamp instead the real thing.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 5:42 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I have a CDR of Danny's Elfman's expanded score for Dolores Claiborne from 1995 that still plays perfectly.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

1. You're paying for the license, not the carrier. The ten or twenty dollars you're spening whenever you're buying a cd or even a cd-r is for the rights to the music, the photo's, the title etc. You're money is hardly used for the item itself. A cd, printed artwork and a jewelcase aren't a dollar worth.

2. Current cd-r's last a lifetime. Estimated 70-200 years. Factory pressed cd's will last longer, probably though. Nobody is certain how long. When the cd's were introduced the estimated lifespan was 10-25 years. Fortunately my '82-bought Chariots of Fire still plays. (some factory cd's I bought in the mid-nineties do not, by the way.) Cuurent estimations for factory-cd's vary from 100 to 300. The silver colored phthalocyanine on-demand cd's - which nowhere near comparable to the cheapest cd-r! - will last long, and probably longer.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 6:55 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

...which is exactly what it is!

Oh no it isn't!


Care to elaborate?

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

...which is exactly what it is!

Oh no it isn't!


Care to elaborate?



There was no hidden meaning in my comment.

An official CD (to me) means factory pressed.

CD-Rs don't seem much different to home-made discs (i.e. copies, and not official).

My usage of "official" means the physical medium, and was not referring to its legal status.

But yes, I understand that your explanation is referring to the legalities of paying for the rights.

I guess in my head, it's the difference between an official download (i.e. licenced and paid for) compared to an illegal download (theft). Although the difference here is that you're still getting the same end product. Whereas an "official" CD compared to a CD-R is different.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

...which is exactly what it is!

Oh no it isn't!


Care to elaborate?



There was no hidden meaning in my comment.

An official CD (to me) means factory pressed.

CD-Rs don't seem much different to home-made discs (i.e. copies, and not official).

My usage of "official" means the physical medium, and was not referring to its legal status.

But yes, I understand that your explanation is referring to the legalities of paying for the rights.

I guess in my head, it's the difference between an official download (i.e. licenced and paid for) compared to an illegal download (theft). Although the difference here is that you're still getting the same end product. Whereas an "official" CD compared to a CD-R is different.


Well, "official" would seem better applied to the legal status of a product than to its (perceived) durability. If you prefer pressed CDs to burned CD-Rs, I can understand (and I'm even with you on that), but the word "official" isn't the one I'd choose to use to indicate the greater desirability of one over the other - certainly not when there are other words you could use. Heck, if you really wanted to be dismissive of the CD-R version, you could refer to the pressed one as the "good" one or the "decent" one or the "acceptable" one. Alternately, you could go with just a neutral descriptive term - "the pressed disc," or "the non-CD-R disc," for example. But "official?" That doesn't really distinguish it from the other; you might as well refer to it as "the circular disc" or "the shiny disc" or "the one with the music on it."

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

CD-Rs don't seem much different to home-made discs (i.e. copies, and not official).

I would dare you to tell the difference between a factory pressed cd and a On-demand cd. The only way to tell would be to see if it has a stamped number in the inner ring. The production quality of those on-demand cd's is excellent.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Another CD vs CD-R debate? There seems to be a new one every week.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I guess in my head, it's the difference between an official download (i.e. licenced and paid for) compared to an illegal download (theft).

But as you admit, that distinction is in your head. A licensed CD-R is as official as a licensed pressed CD, even if you don't like it. It would be like suggesting that anybody dressed in all black is a criminal in your head, because their outfit is suggestive of a cat burglar

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   10Arrows   (Member)

Yeah, just like that notorious thief Johnny Cash. LOL.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   10Arrows   (Member)



2. Current cd-r's last a lifetime. Estimated 80-100 years. Factory pressed cd's will last longer, probably though. Nobody is certain how long. When the cd's were introduced the estimated lifespan was 10-25 years. Fortunately my '82-bought Chariots of Fire still plays. (some factory cd's I bought in the mid-nineties do not, by the way.) Cuurent estimations for factory-cd's vary from 100 to 300. The silver colored phthalocyanine on-demand cd's - which nowhere near comparable to the cheapest cd-r! - will last long, and probably longer.


John, I would be interested in your sources for this information. This timespan is MUCH longer than I have ever heard before.

On the issue of justifying the pricing of a CD-R at the same rate as a CD. I have a hard time with that. I cannot think of any other product line where an inferior format costs the same as the quality format. You want to buy a modern hard cover book, you'll pay in the neighborhood of $30 new. That is with a cheaper mass market binding method on acidic paper that will degrade over time.

Want to buy that same book on acid free paper with a properly stitched binding, you will be paying at least three times as much.

In every product I know of, you pay more for better quality, and you pay less for less quality. Except apparently CDs!

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

I've noticed several previously out of print scores have returned as Amazon CD-Rs including Mummy Returns, Home Alone, Field of Dreams, Lady in the Water, Sneakers and others. I guess its a good alternative than paying high prices for the original version in regards to Lady in the Water and Sneakers.

Nooo that is not a good option...
cd-r = bootleg and I would never pay for a cd-r (or a boot for that matter) the same goes to downloads on demand...A genuine CD is the only way and if I missed it and it´s OOP ánd I really wants it , I hunt it down...
I don´t buy the licence, I buy a genuine CD with music as a factory pressed CD and not something joeblow makes in their homebasement for all I know.
It+s a cheap way for labels to go with cd-r, that I´ll never support, and nobody can change my mind on that.
I rather give the studio 5$ and then hunt the CD down myself and they do not have to insult me with a CD-r

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2011 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

I've noticed several previously out of print scores have returned as Amazon CD-Rs including Mummy Returns, Home Alone, Field of Dreams, Lady in the Water, Sneakers and others. I guess its a good alternative than paying high prices for the original version in regards to Lady in the Water and Sneakers.

Nooo that is not a good option...
cd-r = bootleg and I would never pay for a cd-r (or a boot for that matter) the same goes to downloads on demand...A genuine CD is the only way and if I missed it and it´s OOP ánd I really wants it , I hunt it down...


Yes it is a good option since you are getting on officially licensed perfect quality copy of a CD that is OOP.

What bizarre logic are you using where this equates to BOOTLEG?

 
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