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 Posted:   Oct 18, 2009 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   superwidescreen   (Member)

Hi everyone,

I just read that Bear Family Records (Germany) will release a box (lp format) titled
"John Wayne's West". This box will include 1 Book (featuring poster artwork for
John Wayne films), 1 DVD (with trailers to John Wayne films) and 10 audio CDs
featuring music from John Wayne films. The complete details including track listings
can be found here:

http://www.bear-family.de/index.php?sid=3fe2a2ceff24020ed7f0b4c431dc1577&cl=details&anid=c4c68e5cecf2b368eaa6f5074b7aab9e&tpl=&lang=1&listtype=search

I would like to draw your attention to CD 5 which features "The Cowboys" by John Williams.
According to the track listing this CD features a lot more music than the Varese CD from 1994
and even more music than the bootleg LP from end of the 70s.
Does anyone have more details about this project e.g. what quality will the tracks have
(mono or stereo)?

Disc 5

THE COWBOYS

01 Overture [Moving Out] (from: THE COWBOYS)
02 Main Title[Morning On The Ranch](THE COWBOYS)
03 Schoolboys Or Cowboys (from: THE COWBOYS)
04 Learning The Ropes (from: THE COWBOYS)
05 Wild Horses (from: THE COWBOYS)
06 Deserted (from: THE COWBOYS)
07 Crazy Alice [Training Spills] (THE COWBOYS)
08 Alternate Main Title (from: THE COWBOYS)
09 The Ranch [Death Of A Cowboy] (THE COWBOYS)
10 Bedtime Story [Nightfall] (THE COWBOYS)
11 High Spirits (from: THE COWBOYS)
12 Rustlers [The Takeover] (from: THE COWBOYS)
13 The Death Riders (from: THE COWBOYS)
14 Stealing Back The Heard (from: THE COWBOYS)
15 Nightfall (from: THE COWBOYS)
16 A Coward's Deed (from: THE COWBOYS)
17 A Sad Day [A Man To Respect] (THE COWBOYS)
18 The Trap (from: THE COWBOYS)
19 Into The Trap [Trouble] (from: THE COWBOYS)
20 The Drive [Learning The Ropes] (THE COWBOYS)
21 End Of The Drive (from: THE COWBOYS)
22 Summer's Over (from: THE COWBOYS)
23 Finale / End Title (from: THE COWBOYS)
24 Orchestral Sequence (from: THE COWBOYS)
25 Orchestral Sequence (from: THE COWBOYS)
26 Orchestral Sequence (from: THE COWBOYS)
27 Finale / End Title - alt. 1 (THE COWBOYS)
28 Finale / End Title - alt. 2 (THE COWBOYS)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2009 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I think we should have another five threads about this CD. BTW, the search engine is your friend.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2009 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Oh, I see - you just joined today. There have been at least two threads about this set.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2009 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

He's not only superwidescreen, but also in stereophonic sound!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2009 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

The LaserDisc and DVD releases had three cues peculiar to them:

(1) Overture (2:28)
(2) Entr'Acte (2:21)
(3) Exit Music (1:07)

There is an "Overture" cue on the Bear release. The other two cues might be there under another name. But without the cue timings, it's hard to tell.

Good Lord! Don't tell me they left a cue out!
smile

Ron Burbella

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2009 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   superwidescreen   (Member)

Oh, I see - you just joined today. There have been at least two threads about this set.

Sorry folks - I just didn't check before...

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2009 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   superwidescreen   (Member)

Hi folks,

BE WARNED !!!

I just learned that the John Wayne Box (from Bear Family Records) which is available now does not feature John Williams' score to "THE COWBOYS" as originally announced!!! Everyone ordering this box just for "THE COWBOYS" will probably be much disappointed! For unknown reasons the company changed the CD contents WITHOUT ANY NOTICE !
The real content (track listing) of the box is available here:
http://www.bear-family.de/index.php?sid=3fe2a2ceff24020ed7f0b4c431dc1577&cl=details&anid=c4c68e5cecf2b368eaa6f5074b7aab9e&tpl=&lang=1&listtype=search

Sorry folks if you have ordered too soon... :-(

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2009 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Sounds like they're going to have to be ready for a lot of poop headed their way from the people who ordered for THE COWBOYS.


COW POOP.

Reminds me of that Bear Poop and Rabbit joke:


A bear and a rabbit are taking a shit in the woods, the bear turns to the rabbit and says, "Do you have a problem with shit sticking to your fur?" The rabbit says no and the bear whipes his ass with the rabbit. -Gilbert Gottfried

Will be interesting to see how this is handled by The Bear Family.

The Bear Family:

http://www.therapieny.com/images/MarmaladeBearFamily.jpg

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2009 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

Well, this could mean that THE COWBOYS is coming from an US-Label pretty soon.

Maybe LaLa - I think they said in one of the other threads that someone is looking on the Box-release.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2009 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I hope any future release includes the lovely version of Vivaldi that Williams takes up from the kid playing the guitar. Always loved that piece. This score is one of my favourite Williams scores too.

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2009 - 11:56 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

He's not only superwidescreen, but also in stereophonic sound!


Skip to the 4-minute mark:

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2009 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   RMD Music   (Member)

What are the sources for True Grit and Rooster Cogburn and Mclintlock?
That's the real question in my mind. THe re-recordings or something else?

Randy Derchan

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2009 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   RMD Music   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2009 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   rollon1959   (Member)

I am more than content with my Varese score from The Cowboys. I couldn't care less for an extended edition either. I often seem to play this score, followed by Jerry Goldsmith's Bad Girls. Two superb western scores for my money.

This John Wayne box set seems to be causing quite a stir, and although it sounds interesting, I am prepared to wait for future individual releases of some of the westerns mentioned in the set. There was a Bear Brothers four CD set of songs from westerns recently mentioned on another thread, which did appeal though. It was called From The Alamo to El Dorado if memory serves. Might be persuaded to look into the possibility of buying that set, if finances allow.

 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2009 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   Olivier   (Member)

What are the sources for True Grit and Rooster Cogburn and Mclintlock?
That's the real question in my mind. THe re-recordings or something else?
Randy Derchan


And what about Rio Bravo, which I remember reading was lost?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2009 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

What are the sources for True Grit and Rooster Cogburn and Mclintlock?
That's the real question in my mind. THe re-recordings or something else?
Randy Derchan


And what about Rio Bravo, which I remember reading was lost?


I'm sure these must be from the LPs.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2009 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

What are the sources for True Grit and Rooster Cogburn and Mclintlock?
That's the real question in my mind. The re-recordings or something else?
Randy Derchan

I'm sure these must be from the LPs.


None of these three films is beyond the 50-year date that would constitute "public domain" in Europe, so it's hard to see how they can be issued even under that law. And there was no LP for "Rooster Cogburn."

 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2009 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   shicorp   (Member)

As I had already written in the other thread: don't expect miracles!

It is my assumption that the previously available material (LPs, former CD issues) has been properly licensed.

Some of the titles you mention didn't have commercial releases thus far. Coincidentally, these are exactly the titles which are represented on the set by only the main and end titles (and an occasional additional track). I guess it's not that difficult to figure out where the tracks come from...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2009 - 4:30 AM   
 By:   TownerFan   (Member)

Well, this could mean that THE COWBOYS is coming from an US-Label pretty soon.

Maybe LaLa - I think they said in one of the other threads that someone is looking on the Box-release.



Considering FSM seems to have special access to the Warner Bros. catalogue, I think we'll probably see an expanded THE COWBOYS release coming from them in the future.

 
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