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 Posted:   Apr 20, 2009 - 8:17 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

You know, it was Me that did the very first FSM post on this subject, I think I titled it 'CLASSICAL MUSIC FOR FILM MUSIC FANS' or something like that? One of my rare forays into a long post where I waxed lyrical( ish wink ) on VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, SHOSTAKOVITCH, PROKOFIEV, DEBUSSY, RAVEL, HOLST, and many others.

Unfortunately that thread was pre-2000 so doesn't exist anymore, at least as far as I know?

You never saved it did you Thor??


Sorry, no. If you posted it back in the "red-font tree-interface" days (98-99), it might be retrievable from internetarchive.org. However, if it was posted after that, in the interim board(s) between that and this, it's not. And I believe that is exactly when you became a member, if I remember correctly.

One should probably always keep one's long posts in a separate doc-format, especially someone like you who rarely do them in the first place.


Yeah, I became an active member in mid - late 1999 so you probably are right Thor...oh well. frown

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2009 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

I went back and looked at my original posting. I do tend towards the classical stations on my satellite dish 3 from Sirrius and 2 from Dish. Sadly no film music channels, although the Broadway and Sinatra offerings get listened to a lot too. I was not a music major in college, sadly. I went with Poli Sci with minors in history and theater. I spent almost as much time in Band as I did in the theater department. We played a bit of everything, Rossini, Wagner, Shostakovich, Bach, Sousa, etc. When it came time to graduate our director said screw Elgar and we palyed the marches from Quo Vadis and Ben-Hur smile.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   antipodean   (Member)

People have mentioned entire lists of favourite classical works, but I'm surprised at the conspicuous omission of instrumental (esp piano works) as well as chamber music so far. Far more than symphonic music, I absolutely love chamber music, especially string quartet music and lieder.

I'm not an avowed pianophile, but I've also been attending piano recitals a couple of times each year. Last year alone - Angela Hewitt performed both books of The Well-Tempered Clavier, and also recitals by Konstantin Scherbakov, Jeno Jendo, the Micallef-Inanga Duo, Steven Osborne and Stephen Hough. (In all fairness, many of these artists I've known quite well from working in the arts, so it is as much an opportunity to hook up with them again when they visit these here parts.)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

When it came time to graduate our director said screw Elgar and we palyed the marches from Quo Vadis and Ben-Hur smile.

That sounds awesome!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   sdtom   (Member)

I only used Korsakov instead of Rimsky-Korsakov because I was in a hurry. I agree that one does need to have a basic knowledge of music to be able to appreciate his book but many on this forum do, thus the recomendation. I choose Rimsky-Korsakov because he was such a master at orchestrating and his ideas and techniques have been used by countless others that have followed. In fact I'm listening to a new recording of Anton Arensky, a student he taught at the St. Petersburg Conservatory from 1879-1882. His piano concerto, #2 opus, is quite good for such an early age. Having said that the 4 works included on the Naxos CD are nothing groundbreaking.

The book by the way is in our branch public library so it is worth checking it out. Thank heaven our library is still free but give our city government time and they'll figure out a way to make some money. They just proposed parking meters in downtown SD to go on a way 24 hour 7 day a week status to raise additional money. Yuk

Thomas

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Joe Brausam   (Member)

People have mentioned entire lists of favourite classical works, but I'm surprised at the conspicuous omission of instrumental (esp piano works) as well as chamber music so far. Far more than symphonic music, I absolutely love chamber music, especially string quartet music and lieder.

I'm not an avowed pianophile, but I've also been attending piano recitals a couple of times each year. Last year alone - Angela Hewitt performed both books of The Well-Tempered Clavier, and also recitals by Konstantin Scherbakov, Jeno Jendo, the Micallef-Inanga Duo, Steven Osborne and Stephen Hough. (In all fairness, many of these artists I've known quite well from working in the arts, so it is as much an opportunity to hook up with them again when they visit these here parts.)


The Bartok string quartets are amazing, probably among the most important entries to the literature.
Chamber music I like, piano concertos and sonatas too. But solo instrument concertos (even with orchestra) just get on my nerves. I can't stand the Mozart horn concertos and have managed to make it through 3 years of college so far without having to do them! They're so generic, interchangeable almost.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   sdtom   (Member)

Mozart is just like some of the film music today, interchangeable unless your really interested in the sublety of his compositions or a particular film hits a chord.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Mikhail   (Member)

Mozart is just like some of the film music today, interchangeable unless your really interested in the sublety of his compositions or a particular film hits a chord.

That's perhaps overly harsh. If you want to say that about Haydn or (better yet) Vivaldi...... be my guest. But please don't touch my precious Wolfgang.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   sdtom   (Member)

You appreciate Mozart to a much higher level than I do Mikael!!! I was merely making a point that the average listener couldn't identify much of his material. Having said that I can identify all of the different movements in the Tchaikovsky Symphonies because of my keen interest in his material.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 12:05 AM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

I actually listened to more classical music as a kid than I do now (I used to have several of the more popular pieces on cassette, such as Vivaldi's Four Seasons and Stravinski's Rite of Spring), but we don't have a single classical music recording in our collection today. Now that I think about it, I'm not even sure that The Rite of Spring can be considered "classical," but back then I thought it was. I guess nowadays I get my symphonic/orchestral music fix from film scores.


UPDATE (5 1/2 years later):

Lately I've been listening to more classical music than film scores, and over the past year--thanks in large part to the abundant selections and cheap prices ($2 or less) at local thrift stores--our collection has grown from zero classical CDs to a couple hundred. I'm not talking bargain-basement compilations but top-quality stuff. I guess you could say I've had somewhat of a musical spiritual awakening, but don't get me wrong, I still love '80s synth scores as much as ever. wink

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Lately I've been listening to more classical music than film scores, and over the past year--thanks in large part to the abundant selections and cheap prices ($2 or less)...

Me, too: but I try to limit the cost to about GBP1.00 ~ USD1.55 a disc! I do sometimes splash out and buy a second-hand CD off Amazon at GBP1.27 incl. P&P but even these I'm cutting back on now. But if I see a 40CD box set at GBP40.00 or less ... I'm tempted smile

Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Yes, baroque and earlier; Debussy/Ravel and later.

I skip the classical and romantic periods because they for the most part do nothing for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I would estimate that 75% of my LP and CD collection is classical music. For those who are new to classical, there are some excellent 50-CD box sets available from Decca, DG, Philips, Mercury Living Presence, etc. The price is about $2/disc and the performances feature top of the line artists.

The best ones in my opinion are the two from Mercury. They were famous for amazing LP sonics back in the 50s and 60s, and the remastered CDs sound excellent even by today's standards. The music in these sets covers the range from baroque to the 20th century, allowing newcomers to get an idea of what they may like to investigate further.

http://www.amazon.com/Mercury-Living-Presence-Rafael-Kubelik/dp/B005XBA9Y8/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1418499243&sr=1-1&keywords=mercury+living+presence+boxed+set&pebp=1418499247114

http://www.amazon.com/Mercury-Living-Presence-Rafael-Puyana/dp/B00B7364H2/ref=pd_sim_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1MHY03XP4ZD616117RHN

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Last year I bought Beethoven (complete piano sonatas), Ligeti, Stravinsky, Berg and Nielsen box sets (all "steals" on amazon). Recently purchased a used copy of the score of the Orlandus Lassus 'Cantiones Duarum Vocum' (12 motets for equal voices) for two-part Renaissance style counterpoint study and was wondering if anyone here had suggestions for a matching recording.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

It was classical music that got me to sit up and take notice of film music. I remember as a child in elementary school being taught about classical music composers. I cherish those memories of music class. I have been on a Brahms kick as of late. His symphonies & piano concerto's are wonderful.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 10:05 PM   
 By:   MKRUltra   (Member)

I've been aggressively expanding my appreciation of classical for the last couple years, using recordings from Naxos and their online streaming library to try out anything and everything. My favorite composers are Vaughan Williams (his symphonies, anyway), Mahler, Prokofiev, Glass, Takemitsu, Lutoslawski, Penderecki, Barber, Bartok, Sibelius, Tviett, Wagner, etc. Been trying to get into Debussy and Messiaen due to my love of Takemitsu, but I find Debussy pleasant but dull, and I like Messiaen's organ works, the gorgeous L'Ascension and the Turangalila symphony, but otherwise he eludes me.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 11:34 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

I think of myself as a classical person in my world view even though probably most of my listening is film scores. I did most of my musical education in classical and I discovered classical at the same time or right after I discovered film scores..

At the time Naxos was great because you could hear new music, classic warhorses, or unknown repertoire for cheap ($5.99 retail).

The great thing about classical is it's a vague title for all different types of music. Just because you love symphonies doesn't mean you like opera. And just because you like opera doesn't mean you like lieder; doesn't mean you like chamber music; doesn't mean you like organ or sacred music and masses; etc.

And there's sooo much of it. If you like Mozart he's "got lots of albums" (pop music perspective): 30 operas, 40 symphonies, 33 concertos, seventeen string quartets (and he died at 35!)!. Beethoven has nine symphonies, thirty two piano sonatas, dozens of string quartets. Shostakovich which is a totally different universe has 15 symphonies and 15 string quartets. Bach has thousands of pieces.

The point is you could spent a lifetime just studying the 107 Haydn symphonies or the 68 Hovhaness symphonies. Or just try to take in a sampling of many different composers, or just try to embrace the true masterworks. Eventually we all just succumb to our inexplicable likes.

 
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