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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      General Discussion: The Joy of Counterpoint     1 2 3    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 1:36 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) This may be a "musiciany" thing, but I love when composers use counterpoint creatively. Listening to the TITANIC suite just now reminds me how beautifully Horner employed this technique. some other faves: 49th PARALLEL - Prelude ; check out the French Horn line. masterful CAST AWAY - end title ; simple, but lovely rising scale bass line ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST - finale ; the chorale like melody of the saw on top and the string line on bottom is haunting PATTON - Similar to the technique Horner used on TITANIC , Goldsmith juxtaposes two different themes , a la Ives, to thrilling effect. More examples? bruce marshall    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 1:37 PM     By:   Steve Johnson   (Member) Jerome Moross was a genius at it!    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 1:39 PM     By:   Agent Norman Newman   (Member) The counterpoint in the Supergirl overture sticks out to me. Awesome stuff.    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 1:58 PM     By:   Thor   (Member) Listening to the TITANIC suite just now reminds me how beautifully Horner employed this technique. Are you thinking of the "My Heart Will Go On" theme against the bagpipe theme thingie? If so, I agree. That's very clever right there!    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 2:04 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) Listening to the TITANIC suite just now reminds me how beautifully Horner employed this technique. Are you thinking of the "My Heart Will Go On" theme against the bagpipe theme thingie? If so, I agree. That's very clever right there! bagpipe "thingie"=? Thor you REALLY need to take some music classes. LOL! but yes that's it>    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 2:13 PM     By:   Jon Broxton   (Member) The End Credits piece from Gremlins 2. Wonderful!    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 2:31 PM     By:   Ectoplasm   (Member) 7:25-8:25 in the opening track for The Perfect Storm (James Horner). It's a long track and when I think I heard all there is to it, Horner pitches the two main themes one against the other in a very melodic way (for lack of a better expression). Anyway, I like it    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 3:17 PM     By:   franz_conrad   (Member) The counterpoint in LUST, CAUTION is fantastic. Of course, my personal favourite short demonstration of the technique will probably always be Borodin's 'In the Steppes of Central Asia'.    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 3:23 PM     By:   SheriffJoe   (Member) Not from a film, but rather a television show. There is actually a Star Trek: Voyager episode called Counterpoint, which weaves music and story together. It is actually one of the standout episodes from this hit-and-miss series. Just thought I'd mention that! Joe    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 3:26 PM     By:   Rozsaphile   (Member) The climax of the EL CID overture, where the two themes are juxtaposed, with the A theme dominating the first statement and the B theme the second.    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 3:53 PM     By:   joan hue   (Member) http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=1500&forumID=1&archive=1 I did a thread a long time ago on counterpoint. See above. I have two that I really like. In Commancheros, Bernstein composes a lovely counterpoint riff the second time he plays the main theme. Same thing happens in Waxman's Mr. Roberts.    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 4:08 PM     By:   vinylscrubber   (Member) Ah--gone are the days!    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 4:59 PM     By:   franz_conrad   (Member) Ah--gone are the days! Nearly...    Posted:   Dec 6, 2007 - 7:10 PM     By:   DavidCoscina   (Member) I love Arthur B Rubenstein's use of counteropint in Who's Life Is It Anyway, especially the opening credit music. Great string writing. Also, some of the contrapuntal writing in Return of the King by Howard Shore is excellent. Of course anything by Williams kicks butt.    Posted:   Dec 7, 2007 - 6:29 AM     By:   Ag^Janus   (Member) ...and finally the master composer for the ages J.S. Bach, The Art of Fugue is an exhaustive exercise in counterpoint. All master film music composers have mastery of counterpoint, and it shines through, making their music compositions rewarding. Techniques like counterpoint seem to be eschewed by avant garde modern composers, along with harmony. What happened?    Posted:   Dec 7, 2007 - 9:55 AM     By:   Jon A. Bell   (Member) Goldsmith's Under Fire, especially the end title, where he weaves his two themes together and they keep building in intensity. One of the most incredibly-structured pieces he ever wrote, IMO. -- Jon    Posted:   Dec 7, 2007 - 12:13 PM     By:   Thor   (Member) ...and finally the master composer for the ages J.S. Bach, The Art of Fugue is an exhaustive exercise in counterpoint. All master film music composers have mastery of counterpoint, and it shines through, making their music compositions rewarding. Techniques like counterpoint seem to be eschewed by avant garde modern composers, along with harmony. What happened? Blah...Bach? What kind of hack is that? We're talking FILM MUSIC here.    Posted:   Dec 7, 2007 - 1:28 PM     By:   lp   (Member) ...and finally the master composer for the ages J.S. Bach, The Art of Fugue is an exhaustive exercise in counterpoint. All master film music composers have mastery of counterpoint, and it shines through, making their music compositions rewarding. Techniques like counterpoint seem to be eschewed by avant garde modern composers, along with harmony. What happened? The Classical Period occurred.    Posted:   Dec 12, 2007 - 2:42 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) how could I forget....? IL MERCENARIO - Morricone Oh man, that trumpet line!!!!!!!!!    Posted:   Dec 12, 2007 - 3:48 PM     By:   internecine   (Member) Anything by Hans Zimmer. *Cough*     General Discussion: The Joy of Counterpoint    < 1 2 3  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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