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 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   jlj93byu   (Member)

Is the difference between the blu ray disc in this set and the previously released DVD version enough to warrant double dipping? Curious what people's opinions are.

Also, as the packaging appears the same, is it any easier to get the blu ray disc out than the DVD was in the previous packaging? That little rubber nub was a pain to get the disc off of.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

The sound quality is identical between this BD and the old DVD, it's just in a different container/format now, one that is playable on equipment people are more likely to have in their homes.

To play the high-res audio on the old DVD, you had to specifically have a DVD-Audio player; If all you had was a standard DVD player, you could only play the lossy Dolby tracks on the disc.

With the new set, even if you have a standard BD player, you can play the high res tracks on the disc.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 5:13 AM   
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 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 5:22 AM   
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 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   richsto   (Member)

Awesome pictures....makes me want to by a turntable. As if I needed another excuse. Regardless, nice shots and hope you are enjoying. My “smaller” discs should be arriving soon. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   stan2   (Member)

Just finished listening to the new release.

I heard very noticeable differences between the original DVD-A and the new BD. (I did have a player which supported the DVD-A standard.) The levels on the BD seem to be lower than the DVD. The BD also sounds tighter (particularly in the low bass) with more detail because of this. The DVD seemed to have such a high level that it nearly distorted, particularly in the vocals. The mix between vocals and orchestra also seems different with the vocals less prominent.

On the other hand the DVD's high levels and prominent vocals gave it more "punch". I found it took a while to appreciate the less immediate sound of the BD.

For those, like myself, who don't like the way the BD is packaged, put the BD in a slimline plastic case which easily fits in the box.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   richsto   (Member)

I’ve been waiting for sound quality comments and this wets my appetite even further. It is possible that less compression was applied to the Blu-ray transfer which would give it more dynamic range. Let everyone argue about the loudness wars but generally this results in the potential for much improved audio and is a most welcome attribute for me. Appreciate the impressions and comments.

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

Just finished listening to the new release.

I heard very noticeable differences between the original DVD-A and the new BD. (I did have a player which supported the DVD-A standard.) The levels on the BD seem to be lower than the DVD. The BD also sounds tighter (particularly in the low bass) with more detail because of this. The DVD seemed to have such a high level that it nearly distorted, particularly in the vocals. The mix between vocals and orchestra also seems different with the vocals less prominent.

On the other hand the DVD's high levels and prominent vocals gave it more "punch". I found it took a while to appreciate the less immediate sound of the BD.

For those, like myself, who don't like the way the BD is packaged, put the BD in a slimline plastic case which easily fits in the box.


I always thought the vocals sounded very subtle an distant in the DVD, which kind of bother me. Does this means in the new BD sound even more distant? or how did you perceived this?

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

The original DVD-Audio version I have plays just fine on my PS3 - I'd assume it'd be the same on any Blu-ray player.

I don't notice the vocals being muted, depending on your setup, and your center speaker - not sure if you have it turned down for any reason?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   stan2   (Member)

The original DVD-Audio version I have plays just fine on my PS3 - I'd assume it'd be the same on any Blu-ray player.

I don't notice the vocals being muted, depending on your setup, and your center speaker - not sure if you have it turned down for any reason?


I have a 2.1 system, no center channel. I use the surround mix as it seems to give a more open sound. This setup was the same for both discs. Because of the lower BD sound level, I actually had the overall volume higher than for the DVD. The different vocal mix was one of the first things I noticed. It also depends on the speakers and speaker placement.

Has anyone else been able to do a comparison? I would be interested in a number of different observations.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   richsto   (Member)

Also very interested, especially for hi-Rez two channel stereo (2.0 full range, no processing) smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2018 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   stan2   (Member)

The original DVD-Audio version I have plays just fine on my PS3 - I'd assume it'd be the same on any Blu-ray player.

I don't notice the vocals being muted, depending on your setup, and your center speaker - not sure if you have it turned down for any reason?


I have a 2.1 system, no center channel. I use the surround mix as it seems to give a more open sound. This setup was the same for both discs. Because of the lower BD sound level, I actually had the overall volume higher than for the DVD. The different vocal mix was one of the first things I noticed. It also depends on the speakers and speaker placement.

Has anyone else been able to do a comparison? I would be interested in a number of different observations.


Should have mentioned that I use the DTS Surround sound mode.

Not happy that the BD starts immediately with the music rather than an initial menu like the DVD did. Also, after the next track starts on the BD it takes a relatively large number of seconds before the screen track indication changes to the new track. Has anyone else experienced this lag?

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2018 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

As of Friday this is now available to purchase or stream digitally as well

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/1369921417

https://play.google.com/store/music/album?id=Bnom5oksg7lxwr3k5bbzonsdy64

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZW4MQS/

https://open.spotify.com/album/55RTkgUCP7t80hiTUhATMH?si=6HcpjnGoShifl2LHIZg1tw

Even in 24bit/48khz lossless:

http://www.hdtracks.com/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-fellowship-of-the-ring-the-complete-recordings

https://www.7digital.com/artist/howard-shore/release/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-fellowship-of-the-ring-the-complete-recordings-7704358?f=20%2C19%2C12%2C16%2C17%2C9%2C2

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2018 - 2:13 AM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

The original DVD-Audio version I have plays just fine on my PS3 - I'd assume it'd be the same on any Blu-ray player.

A PS3 (or any other blu-ray player) will play most DVD-A discs because many include lossy Dolby Digital encodes of the music. This was done to achieve a level of backwards compatibility with conventional DVD-Video players (not mandatory in the spec, though), however make no mistake that on a PS3 all you'll be getting is that lossy version. To play the MLP-encoded 24/48 high-res audio, a true DVD-A player is required... which were something of a rarity in homes back when the Complete Recordings first came out. Today, higher-end universal disc players like the Oppo Blu-Ray players are about the best choice for playback of DVD-A.

The advantage of the blu-ray disc included with this new set is that every blu-ray player out there will be able to handle the DTS-HD encoded tracks, meaning more people will be able to enjoy the higher resolution files.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2018 - 3:15 AM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

My box finally arrived.
And I'm in LOTR heaven smile
It's look very nice, I finished with ripping yesterday, and listen some tracks (plus I tested my PS4 with blu-ray smile ).
Now I have plans for weekend - listen whole 3 CD in non-stop mode. I hope no-one will bother me big grin

ps I was quite surprised, when it arrived - from all this photos, videos I thought this will be heavier. So I even worried, when I saw it weight in shipping info - I thought that seller make a mistake big grin

pps As I understand, all on-line notes are gone, 'cause their content is represent in Doug's book?

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2018 - 6:47 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

My box finally arrived.
And I'm in LOTR heaven smile
It's look very nice, I finished with ripping yesterday, and listen some tracks (plus I tested my PS4 with blu-ray smile ).
Now I have plans for weekend - listen whole 3 CD in non-stop mode. I hope no-one will bother me big grin

ps I was quite surprised, when it arrived - from all this photos, videos I thought this will be heavier. So I even worried, when I saw it weight in shipping info - I thought that seller make a mistake big grin

pps As I understand, all on-line notes are gone, 'cause their content is represent in Doug's book?


The Elvish Linguistic Fellowship has preserved the annotated score for Fellowship here if you need it:

http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/pdf/fotr_annotated_score_2.pdf

I am sure the others are out there. *cue some Mark Snow X-files score*

 
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