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 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I've been trying to tear myself away from my Ben Hur studies long enough to start perusing the master's latter years.

Can folks here please give me advice on recordings, etc for

Time after Time
Providence
Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid

and I know I'm missing at least a couple, but I want to learn! So far I've previewed Providence and love it very much at first listen. I do notice two recordings I was going to pick up this one:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mYbgpL3wbqY/UEYcxW4jefI/AAAAAAAAAhM/RRm9ZqxRVAw/s1600/CD+COVER.jpg

But I've seen more than one circulating. Please help, FSM rules!

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)


Good Guys Wear Black





That's by Craig Safan.

I assume you mean Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)


Good Guys Wear Black





That's by Craig Safan.

I assume you mean Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid.


Ewwps, thanks so much. Do you have any input? I'd love to hear from you on this, please.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

PROVIDENCE is a wonderful example of Rozsa's late, bitter-sweet style. Although it helps to know the film in order to fully appreciate the music.

Digitmovies released the only complete version. it's out of print but still available from Amazon third party sellers: https://www.amazon.com/Providence-Mikl%C3%B3s-R%C3%B3zsa/dp/B00BGRA41G/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1512256911&sr=1-1&keywords=providence+rozsa

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   Bill Cooke   (Member)



I rate TIME AFTER TIME as one of Rozsa's best scores, regardless of period. For years the only commercial release was a re-recording, which was okay, but the original film tracks are superior, imo, and those were released by FSM. It's an absolutely essential CD for the Rozsa fan.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   Bill Cooke   (Member)



I rate TIME AFTER TIME as one of Rozsa's best scores, regardless of period. For years the only commercial release was a re-recording, which was okay, but the original film tracks are superior, imo, and those were released by FSM. It's an absolutely essential CD for the Rozsa fan.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   Krakatoa   (Member)

PROVIDENCE is a wonderful example of Rozsa's late, bitter-sweet style. Although it helps to know the film in order to fully appreciate the music.

Digitmovies released the only complete version. it's out of print but still available from Amazon third party sellers: https://www.amazon.com/Providence-Mikl%C3%B3s-R%C3%B3zsa/dp/B00BGRA41G/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1512256911&sr=1-1&keywords=providence+rozsa


This album is Really a delight. No Roman fanfare in the mix but it could be argued this is one of his best scores.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 7:04 PM   
 By:   DOGBELLE   (Member)

I have the golden voyage of Sinbad.composed and conducted by Miklos Rozsa.
to it sounded like Ben Hur light. Again it's just me. To my ear's there are a lot of reused themes from Ben Hur.
read this if you want to read about the break down of the score.
http://www.filmscorerundowns.net/rozsa/goldenvoyageofsinbad.pdf

the copy I have is l/p wax copy.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 7:29 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

I would like to make another recommendation for Time After Time, specifically the FSM version. A wonderful score for a very underrated film. Unfortunately, the FSM version went OOP not long after I got ahold of it three Christmases ago and seems to be going for high prices on Amazon (and I'm sure Wagner should be saving money in order to get the Treasury box set.)

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

'Eye of the Needle'? 'Fedora'? 'Last Embrace'?

I call this his nostalgia period because he was hired to recreate an older feel, to revisit his past in all of the later assignments.

These scores create a lush carpet under the films, rich with cellos and deep woodwinds. All good.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 9:06 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I rate TIME AFTER TIME as one of Rozsa's best scores, regardless of period. For years the only commercial release was a re-recording, which was okay, but the original film tracks are superior, imo, and those were released by FSM. It's an absolutely essential CD for the Rozsa fan.


The FSM edition is the ultimate and perfect expression of this score, but it is sold out and generally expensive on eBay. [I shouldn't say perfect; it's missing the faux-disco music from the night club.]

The re-recording was conducted by Rozsa himself, at a time when doing the film was fresh in his mind and he had all the original sheet music, and it's wonderful. If you can get this CD at more of a normal price, it should more than satisfy.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 2:47 AM   
 By:   michael469   (Member)

I would like to make another recommendation for Time After Time, specifically the FSM version. A wonderful score for a very underrated film. Unfortunately, the FSM version went OOP not long after I got ahold of it three Christmases ago and seems to be going for high prices on Amazon (and I'm sure Wagner should be saving money in order to get the Treasury box set.)

I picked my copy up off Discogs just recently for £22.00.

I rate Discogs highly. It seems to have reasonable prices for hard to get scores. I may be wrong in that, but that is my perception.

Of course, you have to add in shipping. I think there is still 1 FSM copy for around £22.00 but that is in the US. So shipping will definitely be a factor.

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Can anyone tell me the benefits of having the expanded version of Providence as opposed to the "other" recording (besides extra tracks of questionable inclusion)?

More simply, is the sound better on the expanded? Or is it simply expanded in terms of tracks.

Grateful for any help.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

Can anyone tell me the benefits of having the expanded version of Providence as opposed to the "other" recording (besides extra tracks of questionable inclusion)?

More simply, is the sound better on the expanded? Or is it simply expanded in terms of tracks.

Grateful for any help.


Expended in terms of number of tracks. Personally I'd go for the Digitmovies CD which has a nice 20 page booklet. Other versions have no notes at all.

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Can anyone tell me the benefits of having the expanded version of Providence as opposed to the "other" recording (besides extra tracks of questionable inclusion)?

More simply, is the sound better on the expanded? Or is it simply expanded in terms of tracks.

Grateful for any help.


Expended in terms of number of tracks. Personally I'd go for the Digitmovies CD which has a nice 20 page booklet. Other versions have no notes at all.


Ordered, and I'll be picking up Time after Time soon as well.

Was Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid an intentional homage musically as well as visually?

As usual, thanks so much to all who have helped me. Doug was the wallet motivator I guess lol!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Dylan   (Member)

Rozsa is one of my favorite composers, and while I appreciate all of his periods, the 1977-1982 period is by and far my favorite. These are all wonderful scores, but his final five in particular ("Eye of the Needle," "Fedora," "Last Embrace" "Time After Time," "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid") blow me completely away & I count these among the greatest scores of all-time.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I'm a big fan of FEDORA. The score fits the film like a glove, and I'm sure Rozsa's working with his longtime collaborator Billy Wilder helped.

 
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