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I'm wondering if there is any label planning on re-release or expanded (if there is anymore music to add) of this soundtrack. The Elektra release was horrible and makes for a disappointing listening experience.
If there is a lack of a substantial length of music, maybe it could be combined with another release.
JW
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The entire score in the film is about 15 minutes, with 2 short cues totaling around 1 minute unreleased.
That's interesting; I had thought the CD included every cue from the film and that the only possible expansion was with unused cues or alternates.
Yavar
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This is the only one Goldsmith score I can't stand.
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The CD lists 25 tracks but there is actually 26. Soundtrack collector list the extra track (#24) as a Goldsmith cue. But it does'nt really sound like Goldsmith. Even in source mode. Could be a standard im not familiar with. The opening reminds me of William's Tribute To Vernon from TOD.
Anyone?
This is one of those notorious track listing fails of the 80s and 90s. I've always loved this score, but I never thought track 24 was a Goldsmith cue. The recording quality is pretty different from the score.
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Six
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Just rewatched this movie tonight; I had seen it once before long time ago. In the context of the movie, the score was excellent. The film didn't need much music, but when it did, Goldsmith hit the right notes (ouch, sorry for the pun). Would love to see this re-released. It's a very short score, perhaps Goldsmith’s shortest feature film score? I would settle for a digital release (as long as it's not lossy).
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It's a good and rather underrated score! Proof that Goldsmith could still spot a film using music sparingly, even in the 90s. But even if you're talking only about theatrical feature film scores, I'm pretty sure Goldsmith's Seven Days in May is still shorter than this one.
Thanks to the late Gergely Hubai a few years ago, I discovered that the existing soundtrack album for this does NOT include the full score! He informed me that when he tried to create an isolated score track for the film, there were two short unreleased cues. Seems rather counterintuitive, since you'd think for such a brief score as much would be included on the album as was recorded, but for whatever creative reasons a bit of music was omitted. Here's the list of cues that exist as sketches in the Academy's Margaret Herrick Library. I've bolded the single one that isn't on the album:
https://collections.new.oscars.org/Details/Archive/71303016
1-1 "Ouisa and Flan," 3 pages
4-1 "There Is a God...," 2 pages
4-2 "The Teacher," 3 pages
5-1 "Safe Trip," 2 pages
6-1 "The Blade," 1 page
7-1 "The Chapel," 1 page
9-8 "The Kiss," 2 pages
11-1 "Both Sides," 1 page
11-2 "Not Family," 1 page
11-3 "No Heart," 9 pages
Now it's worth noting that this cue list seems incomplete. It doesn't include the End Title OR the original source cue by Goldsmith "Give Six", both of which are on the album. This wouldn't be the first time that the Herrick's sketch holdings fail to represent the complete score -- what they have for Justine is even more incomplete.
Maybe there are even some unused cues or alternates that Goldsmith recorded at the session. It probably wouldn't result in much more than 20 minutes of score, but considering we got a fantastic album for Shamus which was under 26 minutes long, that's not really a dealbreaker in my opinion. I would be totally in for a new edition of this one as I don't own it in physical form. Even so I imagine it's the lowest of Goldsmith priorities for any of the labels, since so little is missing, and the film is also owned by Regency (which is owned by Warner Bros.?) and Roger Feigelson in another thread also said he repeatedly tried licensing a couple of Regency titles (including Goodbye Lover by John Barry) without success.
Yavar
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Thanks Yavar, for being the reliable wealth of information concerning all things Jerry Goldsmith. Yeah, right, SEVEN DAYS IN MAY is also very short and may be Goldsmith's shortest feature film score after all.
I don't own SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION in any form, but the music is charming. Interestingly, I remembered it quite well from my first viewing of the movie... better than the plot.
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Thanks Yavar, for being the reliable wealth of information concerning all things Jerry Goldsmith. Yeah, right, SEVEN DAYS IN MAY is also very short and may be Goldsmith's shortest feature film score after all.
I don't own SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION in any form, but the music is charming. Interestingly, I remembered it quite well from my first viewing of the movie... better than the plot.
Have always loved this score and the Schepisi/Goldsmith collaboration in all of its inventive forms. A remastered version of this score with the correct track titles and the random stuff from the album removed would get lots of airtime from me.
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You're very welcome Nicolai!
The source cue "Give Six" is credited to Paul Grabowsky, not Goldsmith.
Thanks for the correction! As I mentioned I don't have this one in my collection physically, so I didn't have a booklet to check for that kind of info.
There are two tracks titled "No Heart" on the album, the End Title and Track 18, running 1:05. Could that be in fact the "missing" track "The Chapel"? Or could it be the 50-second unlisted track 24? (This album's track titles sure are a mess!)
I suppose it's possible! We may not know until a new edition is produced.
If so, then the album does indeed include all of Goldsmith's original score.
As I mentioned, I originally heard about two missing Six Degrees cues thanks to the late Gergely Hubai, a prolific liner notes writer and author of the book Torn Music about rejected scores. I've gone back into my FB Messenger correspondence with him to pull out the details: one cue is 32 seconds long as he sent it to me, and it seems like a bit of an odd source music cue but I do detect some Goldsmithisms in it. And when I asked Gergely if that was it (because I could understand why Goldsmith left it off the album), he replied, "there is one smaller thing, a romantic connective piece a bit before this" -- who knows if that's "The Chapel" or something else? He was going to send it to me but I think it slipped his mind...and then he passed away.
Yavar
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Thanks Yavar, for being the reliable wealth of information concerning all things Jerry Goldsmith. Yeah, right, SEVEN DAYS IN MAY is also very short and may be Goldsmith's shortest feature film score after all.
Theatrical feature, anyway. Unless one counts The Man (since it got a theatrical release overseas), which has less than 14 minutes of original Goldsmith music in the film itself (though I think he originally composed/recorded a few more minutes and they were just dialed out of the film:
https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=113568&forumID=1&archive=0
If we expand to TV features, I think it's possible that Indict and Convict might be only around 15 minutes of music. I never finished timing it.
Yavar
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