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 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   kirksworks   (Member)

Many Golden Age and Silver Age composers are pretty much unrepresented on CD. Much of it of course is because no recordings exist other than in the films themselves, but some (particularly Silver Age) might have a chance.

Here's a partial list of some I feel are sadly neglected. Some have been modestly represented on LP, and others have limited CD re-recordings, but most have nothing or near nothing available. Here are some whose work I'd like to see either expanded or become available in some form:

Robert Emmett Dolan (pretty much ignored on CD)
The Major and the Minor, Mr. Peabody and the Mermaid (nice!), The Great Gatsby ('49)

Carmen Dragon (I thought I'd never see the release of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, so perhaps there's hope from some of these others...)
The Strange Woman, Dishonored Lady, Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye, The People Against O’Hara

Dominic Frontiere (aside from Outer Limits, pretty much ignored, but these John Wayne films might have a chance...)
Chism, The Train Robbers, Brannigan

John Green (only modestly addressed with Raintree County and Twilight of Honor)
The Inspector General, Alvarez Kelly, They Shoot Horses Don’t They? (latter might be available)

Frederick Hollander (next to nothing available besides Sabrina, but here's some others...)
Conflict, The Great McGinty, Here Comes Mr. Jordan, Caught, Born Yesterday, Phffft

Michel Michelet (Love this guy, and nothing at all available)
Siren of Atlantis (great!), Impact, The Man on the Eiffel Tower, M ('51 great!), Fritz Lang’s Indian Epic (The Tiger of Eschnapur and The Indian Tomb) both great!, Captain Sindbad (great as well!)

Walter Scharf (the Jerry Lewis films are almost all worthwhile of release, but Scarf did a lot... and some of these may show up some day...)
Lewis films: The Bellboy, The Ladies Man, The Errand Boy, It’s Only Money, The Nutty Professor,
Non Lewis: The Joker is Wild, King Creole, If it’s Tuesday if Must Be Belgium (LP), The Cheyenne Social Club, plus Lewis/Martin films. NOTE: MANY UNCREDITED

Frank Skinner (One of my favorite scores is Man of a Thousand Faces which is available, but Skinner was very productive. It seems some of these may turn up...)
Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, Magnificent Obsession, All That Heaven Allows, Portrait in Black, Midnight Lace, The Ugly American, Shenandoah, Madame X ('66).The Appaloosa ('66) Note: MANY UNCREDITED

Roy Webb (Of course the Val Lewton rerecordings and Notorious suite have been available, but Webb had a long productive career, and there are many others I'd like to see at least suites from...) Journey Into Fear, I Married a Witch, Murder My Sweet, Experiment Perilous, The Spiral Staircase, Sinbad the Sailor, The Window, The Lusty Men, Houdini ('53), The Sea Chase, Marty, Note: MANY UNCREDITED

Certainly most of these will never see the light of day since there isn't a market of them, but you never know. We're continually being surprised

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Buss1974   (Member)

A suite from the magnificent Frederick Hollander score from "The Verdict" was reconstructed and recorded by William Stromberg in the "Film Noir" cd:

https://www.amazon.com/Film-Noir-Concert-Adolph-Deutsch/dp/B0000076CI/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1492631734&sr=1-3&keywords=hollander+frederick

But we need more from this superb composer!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Don't forget R. Dale Butts !

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Kenyon Hopkins
Billy Goldenberg
And the guy who wrote Valerie and Her Week of Wonders

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

We really do need more MORTON STEVENS:-)

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 4:17 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Luboš Fišer
Zdenek Liška
Vadim Petrov

Teddy Castellucci

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Shuki Levy. A ton of cartoon scores from the 80s and 90s gathering dust in vaults, much to my frustration.

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

We really do need more MORTON STEVENS:-)

I don't believe the lawsuit filed by the Stevens estate over CBS's use of the "Hawaii 5-0" theme has been settled yet. Until it is, I wouldn't expect any Stevens material controlled by CBS to be released.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   kirksworks   (Member)

Zdenek Liska, yes!! Fabulous World of Jules Verne, Baron Prasil, and much more!

Luboš Fišer
Zdenek Liška
Vadim Petrov

Teddy Castellucci

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Dominic Frontiere (aside from Outer Limits, pretty much ignored, but these John Wayne films might have a chance...) Chism, The Train Robbers, Brannigan


Given his limited output, Frontiere has been fairly well-served. In addition to The Outer Limits, other scores of his on CD are:

  • The Unknown
  • Billie
  • The Rat Patrol (2 volumes)
  • Hang 'Em High
  • Popi
  • Barquero
  • On Any Sunday
  • Hammersmith Is Out
  • Brannigan
  • Cleopatra Jones and the Casino of Gold
  • A Name for Evil
  • The Stunt Man
  • The Aviator
  • Color of Night

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     Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 5:38 PM   
     By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

    Rudolph Kopp
    Gustavo Cesar Carrion
    Raul Lavista
    Matyas Seiber

    Don't ask... just look 'em up on imdb.

     
     Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 6:10 PM   
     By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


    I tried hard at FSM to release scores by composers little represented on CD and it was difficult commercially (unless the film had some cache). I would imagine it's almost impossible now. You just can't recoup costs if you only sell 400 copies.

    Lukas

     
     
     Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 9:17 PM   
     By:   .   (Member)


    Certainly most of these will never see the light of day since there isn't a market of them, but you never know.



    Well, if Chandos aren't losing tons of money by re-recording film music by Mischa Spolianski, Francis Chagrin, Stanley Black, Arthur Benjamin and Leighton Lucas, Richard Addinsell, Brian Easdale, Clifton Parker and plenty of others, I'm hopeful that some brave and enterprising label might eventually give us some recordings of people like Skinner and Buttolph and the many other fine composers who our specialist labels have virtually ignored.

     
     
     Posted:   Apr 20, 2017 - 12:13 AM   
     By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

    I tried hard at FSM to release scores by composers little represented on CD and it was difficult commercially (unless the film had some cache). I would imagine it's almost impossible now. You just can't recoup costs if you only sell 400 copies.

    Lukas




    If a label dare to release limited edition of the following composers:

    Billy Goldenberg (Universal television scores)
    Gil Mellé (Universal television scores)
    Oliver Nelson (Universal television scores)

     
     
     Posted:   Apr 20, 2017 - 2:12 AM   
     By:   slint   (Member)

    I tried hard at FSM to release scores by composers little represented on CD and it was difficult commercially (unless the film had some cache). I would imagine it's almost impossible now. You just can't recoup costs if you only sell 400 copies.

    Lukas


    Quite a lot of soundtrack releases are limited to 300 copies these days.

     
     
     Posted:   Apr 20, 2017 - 5:31 AM   
     By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

    I would imagine it's almost impossible now. You just can't recoup costs if you only sell 400 copies.

    This certainly depends on how expensive the licensing costs for the CD project are and whom you have to deal with. If the amount of expenses is not too high, you can certainly break even if you only sell 300 copies.
    Just look at the Morricone reissues GDM in Italy does which are only limited to 300 copies. It is quite certainly no big problem for them to recoup costs or to even make some profit on these CDs as the scores are in most cases owned by themselves or from the RCA catalogue which is nowadays also managed by them.

     
     Posted:   Apr 20, 2017 - 6:12 AM   
     By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

    We really do need more MORTON STEVENS:-)

    I don't believe the lawsuit filed by the Stevens estate over CBS's use of the "Hawaii 5-0" theme has been settled yet. Until it is, I wouldn't expect any Stevens material controlled by CBS to be released.


    Yes, the lawsuit is an issue. However, I really do hope that it is settled by next year just in time for the H5O "50th" Anniversary so that there might be a CD box set that features the Stevens, Shores, Broughton & Ray scores.

    Here's to hoping....:-)

     
     
     Posted:   Apr 20, 2017 - 10:44 AM   
     By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

    Some have been modestly represented on LP, and others have limited CD re-recordings, but most have nothing or near nothing available.


    Still others are not represented because their music was not attached to English language films or Hollywood productions.
    Consider vintage French or Japanese cinema as well as all the 'lost' music from British film productions...

    Another subset category for this thread are those composers whose discographies are mostly that which was released on vinyl and not CD (Georges Garvarentz, Kenyon Hopkins, Stanley Myers, etc.)

     
     
     Posted:   Apr 20, 2017 - 10:47 AM   
     By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

    Certainly most of these will never see the light of day since there isn't a market of them, but you never know. We're continually being surprised

    2016 had a few surprises. The Wolfgang Zeller disc on Alhambra, Ned Rorem's unused film music on Kritzerland & Carlo Franci's peplum on Digitmovies.

     
     
     Posted:   Apr 20, 2017 - 11:14 AM   
     By:   slint   (Member)


    Still others are not represented because their music was not attached to English language films or Hollywood productions.


    Indeed. Take for example Gregorio García Segura which has 179 IMDB credits from 1959 to 1996 but not a single LP or CD release. Or Gustavo César Carrión which has 336 credits!! but only one LP release.

    There are probably 1000 composers like that all over the world, though perhaps few with as much scores.

     
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