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 Posted:   Jun 20, 2016 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Z, a most interesting post as always. I think I was "wrong" (really) with the "fundamentally incorrect" bit. Can we call it "possibly flawed"? Of course, nobody's right and nobody's wrong in how they go about this - especially if we talk about "opinions", but I get the gut feeling that the majority (gorra be careful here) would perchance detect an "elitism" in your approach to the question.

Now, I'm all for "dumbing up" the state of affairs, but I still fail to see how for somebody "just now getting into Goldsmith" your suggestions would be helpful. Most likely they would just turn that person off. It strikes me a little of the young kid "just getting into" jazz because he heard Bruce Forsyth tinkling the ivories on "The Generation Game" once (in 1976), and so you give him the collected works of Cecil Taylor and then wonder why he's perplexed.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2016 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Zardoz, I'm not opposed to introducing new things to a person asking for recommendations, but it needs to be an organic transition. First you need to know his or her taste in things. Then tailor your picks from that. Only then, once the comfort zone has been established, say something like "oh, btw, if you want to check out some of these things that sound so and so, but that aren't perhaps within your preferred style, then check out these:....".

It's just basic psychology, as Graham alludes to. No one wants to be lectured on what to like or not like. People can be nudged, but mostly, they want to find out for themselves. So any good "recommender" needs to employ a good Socratic method in that regard.

But I'm sure you would make a fascinating source of information, once you'd been asked to elaborate on something you knew both you and he/she likes.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2016 - 8:46 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I would recommend you first study the history of Riotengine . Learn from his example . Do not follow in his footsteps-; do not let the sad fate of this obsessive fan happen to you!

Take heed!
brm

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2016 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Of course, for us geezers, this was never a question. We were young when we heard and fell in love with Jerry Goldsmith's first scores, and we heard each and every subsequent score as it was composed. It's been good to share a lifetime with his life's work.

This.

As a youngster I became aware of the composer via his wonderful Twilight Zone scores and grew up as his career was taking off. What decades we 'shared'. smile
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=85897&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2016 - 10:40 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

There are interesting ideas being tossed around on this topic, some very valid opinions.

I don’t suggest certain scores to introduce new listeners because those scores would be my favorites, and I don’t know what new listeners enjoy.

I’ve always thought the best way to introduce a “newbie” to a new composer is to give him/her a compilation of a composer’s scores. Compilations usually use a composer’s BEST and most iconic themes.

Therefore, I’d give this person the four disc compilation called JERRY GOLDSMITH 40 YEARS OF FILM MUSIC. There are 5 television themes and a medley from The Sandpebbles, Chinatown, A Patch of Blue, Poltergeist, Papillon and The Wind and the Lion. There are a ton of other separate scores.

If someone introduced me to Goldsmith by only playing Alien, I’d cross Goldsmith off my list. It is a great score synced to one of my favorite movies, but it wouldn’t work as a stand-alone for me. However, on this compilation, if I heard Star Trek:TMP, Masada, First Blood II, Lionheart, or Wild Rovers, I’d be totally hooked on this composer, and I am hooked on Goldsmith.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2016 - 12:06 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

I would recommend you first study the history of Riotengine .

Isn't that a type of pasta?

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2016 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I would recommend you first study the history of Riotengine .

Isn't that a type of pasta?


say what?!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2016 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Good one Jim!

 
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