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 Posted:   Feb 28, 2020 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Jeff M   (Member)

TerraEpon - to help clarify, in the case of spiders, yes it's almost completely alternate music. Certain passages are clearly the same. As to what is edited vs new takes, that's harder to say. (Thanks, Scott, that makes sense!)

Suffice it to say the 10.24 min "Spiders" cue on the 1999 album contains music not in "Spiders and Static" 7:54 cue on the 2 disc (as well as the alternate versions).

A lot of expanded soundtrack releases pretty much replace the original. Total Recall is a great example: each newer album has rendered the previous obsolete. If you have the quartet Total Recall... no reason to own the other versions.

Not the case with Lost in Space. My point was simply to give people heads up that 1999 album still has a lot of unique music not on the 2 disc. Both versions of the score are worth owning if you're a fan as they are both very different listening experiences with actually different music (some tracks are still the same of course).

Though not as dramatically different as say the Back to Future alternate score disc, it's more akin to that. A more alternate "version" of the score, not just a few superfluous changes here and there. Unlike back to the future alternate though where it's clear Silvestri really blew the roof off the house with his revisions, I wouldn't say one version is clearly better than the other here. Just Broughton deftly rewriting to fit all sorts of changes while remaining cohesive. Really a joy to hear.

!!EDIT: Rus later points out in this thread that all the music on the 1999 disc is on the 2cd, just very heavily edited and spread out over various tracks in some places. He's right. The 1999 disc sure makes for a different listening experience though. Apologies for the misinformation!!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2020 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Huh interesting. There's a good 35+ minutes of room on the 2CDs so one wonders why Intrada didn't include the alternates, then. I *do* appreciate different takes (and especially parts with different bits of instrumentation, etc) and love it when that stuff is included. But for me, it's not worth the duplication to have the extra 20 minutes mixed in with the redundant 50 minutes or whatever, and as they say ignorance is bliss, so I'll just stick to the 2CD set which is one of my favorite Broughton scores as well.
(The BTTF case is a whole different level than most, for sure, and the fact it exists and is on Intrada's set is one of my film music joys).

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2020 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

This score deserves more love.

One of Broughton's best.

IMHO.

Graham

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2020 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This score deserves more love.

One of Broughton's best.

IMHO.

Graham


I agree. One of his best.

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2020 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

This score deserves more love.

It isn't loved? Golly, "The Proteus" and "Boarding the Proteus" are absolutely spellbinding in the same way Mancini's "The Discovery" from Lifeforce bathes you in atmospheric suspense.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 29, 2020 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

As someone who has the original regular songs/score CD release AND the first Intrada expanded edition (77 minutes), but not this 2 disc edition, how much NEW, NEVER HEARD BEFORE music is there, minutes wise?
Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Feb 29, 2020 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

As someone who has the original regular songs/score CD release AND the first Intrada expanded edition (77 minutes), but not this 2 disc edition, how much NEW, NEVER HEARD BEFORE music is there, minutes wise?
Thanks.


6, judging by the running time of the score printed on the label. However, this presentation may be presenting everything as presented in the movie, where the previous album may be first stabs before picture changes.
This was my third go 'round for this score; it was worth it.

 
 Posted:   Feb 29, 2020 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Anyone notice this film uses the same main theme as 'The Rescuers Down Under' (Or vice-versa)?
It's treated differently in each movie but it's def the same.

I thought it was funny that Intrada just slipped this in on the same release day as 'Rescuers...' without too much fanfare, but it was there on the counter at Creature Features in Burbank when Intrada held it's 'Meet The Composer' release event for 'Rescuers...'.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 29, 2020 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Rus   (Member)

I did an A-B comparison when the 2CD set came out. All the music from the 1999 Intrada album is there on the 2016 album, just scattered a bit.

1999-T06 0:00-2:17 = 2016-D1T11 The Proteus (0:00-2:17)
1999-T06 2:17-4:48 = 2016-D1T12 Boarding The Proteus (0:48-3:20)
1999-T06 4:48-7:36 = 2016-D1T13 Spiders Arrive / Spiders Attack (0:20-3:58, with a lot of microedits)
1999-T06 7:36-9:09 = 2016-D2T12 Spiders Arrive / Spiders Attack (Alternate) (3:58-5:44, some microedits)
1999-T06 9:09-end = 2016-D1T14 Jupiter Crash (all)

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 29, 2020 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   Jeff M   (Member)

Holy cow!

That's an impressive breakdown Rus. I stand corrected! Looks that 1999 cue Spiders is indeed all on the 2cd just broken out over all those cues.

Hats off to whoever put together that edit of "Spiders" on the 1999 release... it flows so well it sounds like an original composition and yet is was truly edited together from tiny bits and pieces over 5 different cues. That percussive "alarming" motif on "Spiders Attack" around 4:06 and again 6:21 for example, is expanded upon and treated so differently in the 2 disc that I didn't realize it was buried on the revised version at 3:58.

Normally I feel like chronological is always a better in film scores (fingers crossed for a chronological Toy Soldiers one day) but the the way the 1999 LIS album flows pretty unique (that Spiders cue case in point!). I do stand corrected about the music being actually different though. Rus's breakdown is on the money. Thanks for sharing!!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2020 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Jeff M   (Member)

Kev McGann -

To answer your question, about how many minutes of NEW NEW music there are in the 2 disc, the liner notes actually have a pretty detailed breakdown (not sure why these aren't noted on the back of the cd)

*Previously Unreleased
**Includes Material Previously Unreleased

(I separated with paragraph breaks new / previously released)

CD 1: (59:29)
• 1. Prologue (0:58)

• 2. Main Title/Major Mayhem (4:07)**
• 3. Hologram Gags/You'll Do (Alternate) (1:05)*

• 4. Meet Dr. Smith (1:40)

• 5. Dog Tags, No. 1 (0:38)*

• 6. Reprogram The Robot/The Launch (6:25)
• 7. Bad Dream/The Robot Attack (3:22)
• 8. Where's Judy?/Judy is Dying (Remix) (6:23)
• 9. Can't Kill the Man (Revised) (0:49)

• 10. We're Lost (0:23)*

• 11. The Proteus (Alternate) (2:23)

• 12. Boarding the Proteus, Pt. 1/Boarding the Proteus, Pt. 2 (7:01)**
• 13. Spiders And Static/Spiders Attack (Revised) (7:54)**

• 14. Jupiter Crash (1:11)
• 15. A Strange New Place/Spider Scratch (1:29)
• 16. Matt and Judy (1:40)

• 17. Goodnights (0:38)*

• 18. Energy Bubbles/Dog Tags, No. 2/John and West Set Out (2:23)

• 19. Will's Walk/Smith Persuades Will (1:56)*

• 20. Will and Smith Set Out (1:59)
• 21. Decades Old/I'm Your Son (Revised)/Time Machine (4:27)


CD 2: (64:43)
• 1. Never Trust Anyone/Smith Interrupts/Spider Smith (3:01)*

• 2. Friendship/We Have a Plan/Kill the Monster (Revised) (8:46)
• 3. Let's Go Major (Original) (1:26)
• 4. The Portal (Revised Alternate) (2:44)
• 5. Through the Planet (Revised Alternate) (2:28)
• 6. Nice Work Fly Boy (Revised) (1:36)
• 7. Fanfare For Will (0:27)
• 8. Lost in Space (3:26)

The Extras - Alternates: (40:29)
• 9. Hologram Gags/You'll Do (Original) (1:04)*
• 10. Can't Kill the Man (Original) (0:49)*
• 11. The Proteus (Original) (2:24)*
• 12. Spiders and Static/Spiders Attack (Original) (7:54)**
• 13. Decades Old/I'm Your Son (Original)/Time Machine (4:32)* (time machine section)
• 14. Friendship/We Have a Plan/Kill the Monster (Original) (8:50)**
• 15. Let's Go Major (Alternate) (1:24)*
• 16. The Portal (Original) (2:42)*
• 17. The Portal (Revised) (2:43)*

• 18. Through the Planet (Original) (3:13)
• 19. Through the Planet (Revised) (2:41)

• 20. Nice Work Fly Boy (Original) (1:48)*


So without doing an exact breakdown I'd say in total it's roughly 18 minutes of new unreleased music from the main program

30 minutes of unreleased/alternate music from the alternate takes.

All together about 48 minutes of new material. Hope that helps to clarify!

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2020 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I'm very grateful for the latest expansion, but yeah, the 1990's expansion is a brilliant program, brilliantly edited.

It reminds me of the 90's expansion of Silverado - very grateful for the complete release (which is a much tougher listen with a lot of challenging music) - but I sill love the 90's program.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2020 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Thanks Jeff, that's one pretty thorough breakdown.
And a lot more extra/alternate stuff than I imagined.
Much appreciated mate smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2022 - 4:42 PM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

Any chance of a reissue of this one?

 
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