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 Posted:   Jul 23, 2016 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

The Discovery looks very Klingon-ish, and the trailer music sounds very Klingon-ish.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2016 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The Discovery looks very Klingon-ish, and the trailer music sounds very Klingon-ish.

It's based off of Ralph McQuarrie's early concept design for Phase 2. I love his work, but this design is butt ugly.

http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/07/23/c22cb355-a9fb-412c-be6c-0b6ca9c83ed8/resize/620x465/f5ebc7b24cac998868e99b03ade3c097/ralph-mcquarrie-star-trek-phase-ii.jpg

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2016 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

That may be the basis, but there are also definite Klingon influences to this version. It's more compact, the nacelles are now under the secondary hull rather than above it.

The music also does seem to have a Klingon edge to it. I wonder if this series is about some kind of joint mission between the Federation and Klingon Empire.

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2016 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

Judging by this trailer



the nacelles appear to be in line with their supports. There appears to be something of a secondary hull below the 'delta wing' of the supports. I may be wrong, but I think this design still breaches the principle of having the 'engines' behind the centre of mass, though this time they may be too low, whereas with 1701 and 1701-A the problem was they were too high. I think B might have been better, I believe C was 'correct', and D and E I think were too. So in some senses this design is retrograde, as well as being 'unattractive' (by which I mean butt ugly).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2016 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Matt S.   (Member)

That may be the basis, but there are also definite Klingon influences to this version. It's more compact, the nacelles are now under the secondary hull rather than above it.

The music also does seem to have a Klingon edge to it. I wonder if this series is about some kind of joint mission between the Federation and Klingon Empire.


Do we know at what point in the Star Trek timeline this series takes place? I thought I read that it was to take place after the TOS time period, i.e. the late 23rd or very early 24th centuries...however the impression I get from the USS Discovery is that the ship somehow looks less sophisticated that the Enterprise 1701 (film versions)....it looks like a stepping stone between the NX-class Enterprise and the Constitution-class. Makes me wonder if this is another pre-TOS-era series...that would also explain the low registry number of NCC-1031.

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2016 - 9:02 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/08/bryan-fuller-reveals-long-awaited-star-trek-discovery-details/

- The main character will be a Lieutenant Commander, not a captain
- The show takes place 10 years before Kirk took command (in the original timeline)
- the show "will launch from an event that has talked about in the Original Series, but never fully explored"
- "expect both “robots” and “a few more aliens than usual” in the lead characters"

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2016 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

- the show "will launch from an event that has talked about in the Original Series, but never fully explored"

McCoy's divorce? It's in the TOS bible, but wasnt talked about in any episode, if that's what you meant.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2016 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

That may be the basis, but there are also definite Klingon influences to this version. It's more compact, the nacelles are now under the secondary hull rather than above it.

The music also does seem to have a Klingon edge to it. I wonder if this series is about some kind of joint mission between the Federation and Klingon Empire.


Do we know at what point in the Star Trek timeline this series takes place? I thought I read that it was to take place after the TOS time period, i.e. the late 23rd or very early 24th centuries...however the impression I get from the USS Discovery is that the ship somehow looks less sophisticated that the Enterprise 1701 (film versions)....it looks like a stepping stone between the NX-class Enterprise and the Constitution-class. Makes me wonder if this is another pre-TOS-era series...that would also explain the low registry number of NCC-1031.


We now know the show is supposed to be about ten years before the original series. However, it's also been confirmed the design of the Discovery used in that teaser video is not necessarily the final one. The ship in the actual show may look quite different.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2016 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

McCoy's divorce? It's in the TOS bible, but wasnt talked about in any episode, if that's what you meant.

Would it be interesting or awful if they managed to cast Karl Urban as McCoy as a regular in the new show? He's nearly the same age now as DeForest Kelley was in TOS but he could play a few years younger. Would having a younger McCoy serving on a ship a decade before Star Trek contradict anything in TOS?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2016 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I am guessing that CBS is going to have a problem with viewership in this online only model. I cannot imagine that millions of people are going to pay the monthly fee to watch this show. And if they do not see the viewership, then what, put the show on the network? Then the standards and practices problem kicks in that Fuller is relishing that they are free of right now. And if they wait a full season and people have not invested time with the show for 13 shows the likelihood that they join later is smaller. And if they do join later they would be joining a show with producers and writers weakened by standards and practices imposed. I think CBS is setting up a mess for themselves.

And this was the brilliance of the syndication model that Roddenberry and Paramount set up with TNG onward, it was criticized at the time for being odd, but it gave them a lot of freedom.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2016 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I am guessing that CBS is going to have a problem with viewership in this online only model. I cannot imagine that millions of people are going to pay the monthly fee to watch this show. And if they do not see the viewership, then what, put the show on the network? Then the standards and practices problem kicks in that Fuller is relishing that they are free of right now. And if they wait a full season and people have not invested time with the show for 13 shows the likelihood that they join later is smaller. And if they do join later they would be joining a show with producers and writers weakened by standards and practices imposed. I think CBS is setting up a mess for themselves.

And this was the brilliance of the syndication model that Roddenberry and Paramount set up with TNG onward, it was criticized at the time for being odd, but it gave them a lot of freedom.


In syndication they still dealt with standards and practices issues, though (not that I think the show's creative or commercial success will hinge all that much upon standards and practices).

Regarding distribution and revenue, remember that they also have a deal with Netflix for practically all countries outside the U.S. and Canada; they'll make money for the show from that. In fact, according to CBS, the show was already profitable for them even before shooting began:

http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/07/cbs-says-star-trek-discovery-is-already-profitable-ahead-of-production/

That doesn't even include whatever revenue they'll get from episode downloads from iTunes, Google Play, Amazon, etc., or eventual DVD / Blu-ray releases. Of course the show could still flop, but so far it seems like it's on solid ground financially.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2016 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Syndication for TNG and onward did not impose either the same standards or constraints on storylines and subject that a network would have.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2016 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Pushed back until May, primarily for vfx reasons: http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/star-trek-discovery-good-wife-spinoff-cbs-all-access-premiere-date-1201860613/

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2016 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

And they've lost Bryan Fuller: http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/bryan-fuller-showrunner-star-trek-discovery-cbs-1201901398/

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2016 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

And they've lost Bryan Fuller: http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/bryan-fuller-showrunner-star-trek-discovery-cbs-1201901398/

Yeah, this is not good news for the show. They spin this as best they can, but Fuller was the compass for the whole thing. Remaining as an executive producer does not really mean that much, his attentions will be elsewhere.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2016 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Agreed, but he's been the guiding light on it up to this point; the final show will bear his influence, no matter what (especially since he also wrote the first couple episodes and mapped out the story arc for the full first season).

 
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