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 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I agree that the Portrait is what is essential. But one thing the full album has that the suite lacks is is the wonderful autumnal sense that comes, for example, in the track called, um, Autumn. Seriously, as said earlier, the quiet music and the romantic music do a great job of conveying the sense of the season that is for me one of the most striking aspects of the film, which is a favorite in our household.

If $30 is too much for the album, there is always the digital version, which I'm enjoying right now on Spotify.


I live in Vermont, so the opening scene (and music) is magical to me. The rest of the movie I rank with Wrong Man as being perhaps better off on the Alfred Hitchcock Hour. Despite my Herrmann sycophancy, they're also two of my least favorites by him musically as well.

However, that opening scene's music...it is probably enough for me to spring the 30 US for it. 30 bucks for magical music (even if it is mostly just that overture) isn't a big price to pay (I've paid quite a bit more for other Herrmann scores).

I'll stop being a crybaby about it now.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   dashrr   (Member)

"Sometimes the albums give you too many variations of just a few themes."



If you're looking for themes you don't know how to listen to Herrmann...the best thing about his music is being able to appreciate his non-thematic material. Peace out!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

If you're looking for themes you don't know how to listen to Herrmann...

I'm not looking for themes. Quite the opposite, I often feel like I'm getting hit over the head with themes when I hear the full 60- or 70- minute album. That is why I tend to go for the suites.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   lacoq   (Member)

I am eternally grateful to Varese for recording this wonderful score. I never in a million years thought it would become available, in a beautiful new recording no less! And yes it's the entire album I enjoy. Genius Herrmann throughout!

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

Another five years have passed since the last post in this thread. I wonder if we will ever be lucky enough to get a release of the original "Harry" recording. We should be thankful for the Varese recording (which was really a nice release), but it has the same problems like the other releases in that series. With Intrada preparing a new recording of "The Man Who Knew Too Much," it may not be the best time to ask, but I think the lack of a release of the original recording of "Harry" is a major gap. The movie itself (the story I mean) may not be that great, but "Harry" is a prime example of how movies can capture sheer beauty - perfectly married with music. In reality, the movie would work with just the images and the music.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Another five years have passed since the last post in this thread. I wonder if we will ever be lucky enough to get a release of the original "Harry" recording. We should be thankful for the Varese recording (which was really a nice release), but it has the same problems like the other releases in that series. With Intrada preparing a new recording of "The Man Who Knew Too Much," it may not be the best time to ask, but I think the lack of a release of the original recording of "Harry" is a major gap. The movie itself (the story I mean) may not be that great, but "Harry" is a prime example of how movies can capture sheer beauty - perfectly married with music. In reality, the movie would work with just the images and the music.


I've come to appreciate this film more and more after several decades have passed. So, I think it's a great movie in a special time capsule that may give it a quite dated look today because of the radical changes in the society since its original release.

Great score by Herrmann, rightfully considered as one of his very best. It's not the Brutalo-Herrmann you're hearing here but the most subtle one.

The only thing I find really laughable in the film are the scenes in which the Forsythe character digs a deep hole in the forest with a shovel that is completely unsuitable for this purpose. You could never dig a body in and out several times a day with that thing. Hollywood, oh, well.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

In the case of TROUBLE WITH HARRY the suite is covering most of the scores themes and works great..Still I'm glad that the score exists in its full version.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)


Herrmann had a really good taste in preparing the concert presentations of his film scores that would work in the concert hall.

You might note agree with the tempos he choose when recording them, but as pieces of music, they have stood the test of time.

Ford A. Thaxton


It is such a treat to have the two versions with Herrmann's specially arranged suite designed as a "Portrait of Hitch" and then the terrific film itself focused McNeely album.




That photograph of Herrmann on the back cover with the album's producer Tony D'Amato shows Herrmann with a cigarette in his mouth that no doubt led to the heart condition that would claim his life.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 3:54 PM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

That photograph of Herrmann on the back cover with the album's producer Tony D'Amato shows Herrmann with a cigarette in his mouth that no doubt led to the heart condition that would claim his life.


Herrmann lived an unhealthy life, he became obese, was often in an unhappy state of mind, ate unhealthy yet rather expensive food, had little fresh air, and the smoking was just another factor that led to his early demise. You can't just say it was all due to his heavy smoking. He should have gone to a holistic doctor in the sixties who would have told him all this. But I doubt Herrmann would have listened to him... if he ever went there.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

That photograph of Herrmann on the back cover with the album's producer Tony D'Amato shows Herrmann with a cigarette in his mouth that no doubt led to the heart condition that would claim his life.

It's almost impossible to imagine now, but until 1964, it wasn't generally considered unhealthy to smoke! This album was released only five years later.

I bring this up because my father, when he was in the army in 1953 and working in the canteen, realized he was gaining weight from all the snacking and started smoking as a "healthy" alternative. It took him more than thirty years to quit (and he tried many times). It wasn't easy.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 7:35 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Sometimes, you want to take a quick, refreshing shower, and sometimes you want to take your time luxuriating in a nice long bath.

I've always loved the suite from the moment I first heard it on the Hitchcock LP. By the same token, I've welcomed and relished having the full score on hand.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 8:22 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I love both.

Prefer the re-recording of entire score for a thorough listen.

It's also one of my top three Hitchchock favorite films.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 10:02 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I like both. But if I could have only one of the two, I'd have the full score.
I can prune some tracks if I choose and I prefer having that option.
Similar to how I prefer to have the full score of Shostakovich's Hamlet rather than just the suite, even though I end up programming out three or four of the cues.

 
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