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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      General Discussion: Once loved, now derided...    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2       Last Post   Posted:   Jun 18, 2015 - 12:56 PM     By:   Ado   (Member) Titanic Yes, a very out of context with the movie score. On it's own it is fine, but historical, or period movies with modern scoring rarely work, and if they 'work' it probably bounces you out of the movie. It is remarkable that such a bad score made Horner so wealthy.    Posted:   Jun 18, 2015 - 1:02 PM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) A thread asking if Horner's TITANIC is a masterpiece: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=25540&forumID=1&archive=1    Posted:   Jun 18, 2015 - 1:06 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) Titanic Yes, a very out of context with the movie score. On it's own it is fine, but historical, or period movies with modern scoring rarely work, and if they 'work' it probably bounces you out of the movie. It is remarkable that such a bad score made Horner so wealthy. Agreed, back then I purchased anything Horner and heard the score before the movie and actually didn't like it. It was like Horner channeling Zimmer. The score on it's own has grown on me and I enjoy it. But I still feel it's all wrong for the film. Edit: Thxs for the link JP! I think I was still a lurker back then!    Posted:   Jun 18, 2015 - 1:31 PM     By:   MusicMad   (Member) As Sean suggests above, you're unlikely to get responses from the whole community ... and especially when your question is so emotive. In your recent thread Do you listen to scores that you don't like? I attempted replies but found that the requirement don't like too emphatic. Perhaps it's the English disease ... we like to limit our emotions, especially when written. And so, for this current thread, wanting to reply but finding I can't name a score Once loved, now derided I come up empty handed. There are a number of scores in my collection which have become less interesting to me over the years but - as I've written many times - an upgrade in the sound system brings even the lesser works up a notch or two. I recall reading David Raksin's comment: Nobody should hear my music for the first time explaining that a sceond listen always has a better response. I agree wholeheartedly. But I do acknowledge that over-exposure to a theme (score?) may be detrimental to one's enjoyment ... and I can certainly nominate several works by John Williams, inter alia, in this regard. But deride? No. Mitch    Posted:   Jun 18, 2015 - 1:44 PM     By:   betenoir   (Member) I think it's particularly hard to take the temperature of this board. . . . Yes, alas, that requires a rectal thermometer, impractical for internet usage. ;-) One can't take silence on the board from others as agreement or disagreement with whatever is said. And there are never enough posts on any one pov that could be taken as any kind of consensus, which is a good thing! Agreed!    Posted:   Jun 18, 2015 - 1:45 PM     By:   MusicMad   (Member) A thread asking if Horner's TITANIC is a masterpiece: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=25540&forumID=1&archive=1 I haven't seen the film for many years (only one viewing shortly after the DVD was released) but I enjoy the score very much. It's not my favourite work by Mr. Horner, but it includes many of his typical phrases and I, for one, enjoy his 1990s' scores much more than those of the 1980s. As I haven't played it for quite some time (> 18mths) I think it deserves an airing. It's certainly a better listen than the weak Money (1991 - Ennio Morricone) presently playing the penultimate track. Mitch    Posted:   Jun 18, 2015 - 1:46 PM     By:   The Thing   (Member) As Sean suggests above, you're unlikely to get responses from the whole community ... and especially when your question is so emotive. In your recent thread Do you listen to scores that you don't like? I attempted replies but found that the requirement don't like too emphatic. Perhaps it's the English disease ... we like to limit our emotions, especially when written. And so, for this current thread, wanting to reply but finding I can't name a score Once loved, now derided I come up empty handed. This thread isn't really about an individual's personal opinion of a score, but rather if you can think of examples of trend changes in general regarding particular scores. As I mentioned in my original post, it's something I've noticed on a few occasions when reading various threads and picking up on changes in opinions. So I was wondering if other posters had noticed that over the longer term. So, personal emotive words such as "dislike" or "hate" aren't really applicable considerations in this context.... it's an observational question about general trend changes.    Posted:   Jun 18, 2015 - 2:09 PM     By:   Sean Nethery   (Member) To which I'll say once again and then will stop repeating myself that if there is a "trend" it is not necessarily a real trend of changes in perspective, but a trend of posters congregating around a single idea or point of view - like what we're seeing here on Titanic. Just because we're hearing from a few people for whom the score has issues doesn't mean it's a trend, and still wouldn't necessarily be even if fifty different people posted the same view on the subject. In research, this is called self-selected response, and the self-selection limits the viability of drawing a larger conclusion than, for example, "Solium and Ado share some similar ideas about Titanic." We don't know, and can't guess, how many others feel this way, unless we get a much, MUCH broader response...and even then I wouldn't trust it. [For me, the score for Titanic is the least of its problems, but then, I didn't see it in the theater, so Ado knows I don't know what I'm missing! ]    Posted:   Jun 19, 2015 - 6:20 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) James Franco    Posted:   Jun 19, 2015 - 6:23 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) Titanic ....but historical, or period movies with modern scoring rarely work, Total B.S.! MORRICONE'S wESTERN SCORES DON'T WORK???? CHARIOTS OF FIRE didn't 'work'? SPARTACUS? have a nice day! bm    Posted:   Jun 20, 2015 - 6:12 PM     By:   Ray Worley   (Member) The LOTR scores were founded upon thematic melodies for various places and entities -- as opposed to the impersonal mish-mash that often accompanies the wallpaper dronings of today's scores. The scores are GLORIOUS and very much a part of their success. There are themes in these scores that are ingrained in my soul. I'm thinking many folks disliked them BECAUSE they were successful whereas lesser scores -- but scores others loved -- were not. The LOTR scores are examples of WELL-DESERVED Oscars, as well. Agree 100%. I don't think there are really all that many folks who "deride" the LOTR scores. They just tend to be louder, so their numbers are artificially inflated.    Posted:   Jun 20, 2015 - 6:25 PM     By:   Ray Worley   (Member) Titanic ....but historical, or period movies with modern scoring rarely work, Total B.S.! MORRICONE'S wESTERN SCORES DON'T WORK???? CHARIOTS OF FIRE didn't 'work'? SPARTACUS? have a nice day! bm What doesn't work are blanket statements. The examples above are definitely examples of scores that put the lie to the statement that modern scoring doesn't work with period films. It depends on how your define "modern" and "period" as well. And it's subjective. I will say, that I don't generally like "rock" scoring of a period film and I can state examples that I think were ruined by bad anachronistic scoring (some will disagree with my choices, but I stand by them): THE GREAT GATSBY (2013) MARIE ANTOINETTE LADYHAWKE A KNIGHT's TALE Actually, the last two were sucky movies that no score would have helped, but the first two were RUINED by the rock music in them and would have been better without it.    Posted:   Jun 21, 2015 - 3:34 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) I think what The Thing describes in the first post is a rather rare thing. The opposite is far more common -- a work is disliked or misunderstood at the time of release -- but then gains greater respect as years go by. Spielberg's A.I., for example, which was largely met with negative views at the time (due to unfavourable comparisons to Kubrick), but which is now slowly starting to be appreciated as the Spielbergian masterpiece it is (I was an avid supporter from the get-go, btw). I can't think of a single score I've loved, but then grown to deride (or in fact any other negative term). Over-exposure is another thing altogether. I can say that in general, I've veered more away from the big and boisterous symphonic scores and more into calmer, ambient landscapes, but that's more a development in taste and age than a particular re-evaluation of those scores. I still love my INDEPENDENCE DAY and STAR WARS and FINAL FANTASY and what-have-you, even if I don't listen to them as much as I once did.    Posted:   Jun 21, 2015 - 3:26 PM     By:   TominAtl   (Member) The LOTR scores were founded upon thematic melodies for various places and entities -- as opposed to the impersonal mish-mash that often accompanies the wallpaper dronings of today's scores. The scores are GLORIOUS and very much a part of their success. There are themes in these scores that are ingrained in my soul. I'm thinking many folks disliked them BECAUSE they were successful whereas lesser scores -- but scores others loved -- were not. The LOTR scores are examples of WELL-DESERVED Oscars, as well. Ditto.     General Discussion: Once loved, now derided...    << < 1 2  >   Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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