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May 23, 2015 - 12:51 AM
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desplatfan1
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Marches went the way of most melody in film music.
PRODUCERS DON'T WANT MUSIC.
They want music sound design. Producers are afraid that a theme (which would include marches) "distracts" the audience. It's sentimental. It's old fashioned. yada yada yada.
Yeah, so San Andreas, Pirate's Passage, Jupiter's Ascending, Cinderella, Tomorrowland and all the others that came out this year are just sound design, right? Old fart. Why threads like these makes them appear?
Marches are always associated with war and action films. The latest would be Monuments Men (although Desplat had some "Imperial" marches on a couple of his early French work, he adapted his main theme for The Ides Of March as a upbeat march in the end credits, and the Guardians theme in Rise Of The Guardians gets the march treatement in some cues) and Captain America . Some other films have some march-like themes without the typical snare drum/trumpet duet (like the Terranauts March from The Core, or Hymn To The Fallen from Saving Private Ryan). But some of the usual elements in marches are commonly used in modern film scores (an action/adventure score without snare drums or fanfares are very rare).
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May 27, 2015 - 7:07 PM
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MOsdtks
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Marches went the way of most melody in film music.
PRODUCERS DON'T WANT MUSIC.
They want music sound design. Producers are afraid that a theme (which would include marches) "distracts" the audience. It's sentimental. It's old fashioned. yada yada yada.
Yeah, so San Andreas, Pirate's Passage, Jupiter's Ascending, Cinderella, Tomorrowland and all the others that came out this year are just sound design, right? Old fart. Why threads like these makes them appear?
Marches are always associated with war and action films. The latest would be Monuments Men (although Desplat had some "Imperial" marches on a couple of his early French work, he adapted his main theme for The Ides Of March as a upbeat march in the end credits, and the Guardians theme in Rise Of The Guardians gets the march treatement in some cues) and Captain America . Some other films have some march-like themes without the typical snare drum/trumpet duet (like the Terranauts March from The Core, or Hymn To The Fallen from Saving Private Ryan). But some of the usual elements in marches are commonly used in modern film scores (an action/adventure score without snare drums or fanfares are very rare).
I'm not saying the aren't some music in films out there. Micheal Giacchino is one who will dare to write a melody. It's they are not preferred by most producers. It's not the fault of the composers. There are some extremely talented people out there. Hollywood is usually a copy cat game. Producers look at what they think works or what they are told works because it was in a film that made however hundreds of millions, and they want to apply that to their film.
"That Zimmer guy sure knows what he's doin. He got the pulse of modern film music. Just do what he does and don't draw attention to yourself. It's not a musical. Don't want the audience to hum a theme." I can so see that conversation happening. Ok young punk. Now get off my lawn 
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