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 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

Final mixing of new recording next week in 5.1 etc...

All the sleeve notes are done....but I am on the lookout for some decent quality photos of Bernard Herrmann...if anyone has any please email me at tadlowmusic@hotmail.com

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Final mixing of new recording next week in 5.1 etc...

All the sleeve notes are done....but I am on the lookout for some decent quality photos of Bernard Herrmann...if anyone has any please email me at tadlowmusic@hotmail.com


please, check this page from the Bernard HERRMANN papers (University of Santa Barbara), maybe the photos are available for licensing (the collection features 2 photos from the Obsession recording sessions)

http://findaid.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf438nb3jd/dsc/#c01-1.7.6.3

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

James...
I posted the same link over at the Herrmann messageboard about two weeks ago....Didin't you see it?

 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Awesome. I can't wait to order it.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

James, can you say if there will be any extra suites or themes at the end of the main program? I love how you do that on some of these recordings. The Salamander's suites of Ransom and Cassandra Crossing for example smile

-Rick O.

 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Thanks for the update, James!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)



It's sounding great James! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 3:54 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

Tremendously looking forward to this.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 12:15 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

With the success of Hans Zimmer's pulse pounding Organ sound in INTERSTELLAR; I'm so looking forward to hear that organ in OBSESSION IN 5.1 Its so much in vogue these day wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   Guenther K   (Member)

The Bernard Herrmann Estate do have photos, just drop them an email.

http://www.bernardherrmann.com

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

I had raised a question in an old thread about this score. Near the very end of the film, when Court is in the airport corridor, he sees Sandra being escorted out of the plane. There is a musical sequence that I find extraordinary. Court starts rushing down the corridor -- Sandra rises out of her wheelchair -- the cinematography makes the ceiling lights strobe -- and the music goes all haywire -- a chaotic sound that always takes my breath away. It always sounds aleatoric to me -- but may have been carefully orchestrated for all I know -- or the chaotic sound may have been created by edited overlays.

Since Mr. Fitzpatrick has intimate knowledge of the score, I would ask him if that section is indeed aleatoric? I've always been curious about this.

Thank you. I am so eager to get this recording that it is honestly hard to express my enthusiasm!

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   TheSeeker   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Holy shit! I never knew he had teeth!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

There's a good photo of Herrmann in the original liner notes of the Gerhardt CITIZEN KANE album. Benny's smiling in the control booth with George Korngold and Gerhardt during a recording session.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I had raised a question in an old thread about this score. Near the very end of the film, when Court is in the airport corridor, he sees Sandra being escorted out of the plane. There is a musical sequence that I find extraordinary. Court starts rushing down the corridor -- Sandra rises out of her wheelchair -- the cinematography makes the ceiling lights strobe -- and the music goes all haywire -- a chaotic sound that always takes my breath away

I cannot answer your question, but this is indeed one of my very favorite parts of the score too!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2015 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Just gave this "Obsession" a couple listens and it is magnificent. I actually love this new recording and the OST, both are necessary. Herrmann's score is heavy listening, I was fatigued after listening to this, in a good way!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2015 - 10:35 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

My copies haven't arrived, but at least I can live vicariously through others' reports and comments. I hope my copies arrive this coming Monday.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2015 - 12:14 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

My copies haven't arrived, but at least I can live vicariously through others' reports and comments. I hope my copies arrive this coming Monday.

Seems to be 2 Tadlow's Obsession threads? The one in CAPS is

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=108952&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2015 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

There can never be enough threads about OBSESSION!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2016 - 6:37 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

O.K., I've held my tongue for a long time, but just can't anymore. As much as I love this score, and wanted a complete release of it, and REALLY looked forward to a new recording of it, the Tadlow version was really a lost opportunity. The details are in the orchestration, dynamics, and the nuances in tempi. Herrmann's music in general, and this score in particular, needs a conductor who can see "inside" the music to make it speak to its fullest emotionally. Nic Raine was simply not that conductor. On almost every cut, it sounds like he was just following a metronome and "beating time," instead of bringing out the best in the music. I have seen the videos that were posted of the recording sessions, and I see that the chorus, organ and orchestral sections were recorded separately (sometimes even PARTS of the orchestra were recorded separately), so I can understand the need for some kind of conformity to keep all those parts in sync, but it really came at a loss to music as a whole.

Honestly, look to the William Stromberg-conducted performances of THE SNOWS OF KILIMANJARO, MYSTERIOUS ISLAND, or especially BATTLE OF NERETVA/NAKED AND THE DEAD, and notice how much compassion and identification with the composer the conductor brings to the new recording. Those recordings just spring from your speakers and grab you, sometimes leaving you breathless and speechless at the end of a cue. Even Bruce Broughton, who apparently was not a huge fan of Herrmann, apparently listened to the original recordings of JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS, and went ahead and conducted a SUPERB re-recording for Intrada. So, it CAN be done, but the Tadlow recording of OBSESSION is really not in that category. Listen, for instance to "Sandra." On the original recording, it is simply drenched in atmosphere, mystery and longing. On Raine's recording, it is just another cue that had to be recorded.

I'm glad Tadlow did it. I'm just sorry it was not one of its best efforts.

 
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