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 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   mortenbond   (Member)

This war film with Kirk Douglas and Richard Harris, shot on the actual location of the real war time events in Norway - had a great score by Malcolm Arnold.

Melodic, heroic and suspenseful. There is an atroicious sounding donwload availabe on Itunes. This score deserves a re-recording (calling Ramon Gumba), or a proper release of the complete score.

Would love to hear if anyone else agree with this.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Yes bring it on.
Great film and good score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Interesting you should post this now, mortenbond, as a television series about the same events is currently running on Norwegian TV. But since you're Norwegian like me, you probably knew that already! smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

In the early 90s in London i met a norwegian who appeared in Heroes of Telemark - he played two different German soldiers!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

A magnificent score, and even has a scene in a church where some carolers are singing "Silent Night" in German.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 1:36 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

The sound on the original OST LP was pretty bad, so that probably accounts for what you're hearing on that download.

Incidentally, in his autobiography, Kirk Douglas refers to this film as one he felt he "owed" director Anthony Mann for the way he had been ousted from SPARTACUS, and he, Douglas, was glad he got the chance to repay his debt before Mann passed away.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 3:14 AM   
 By:   mortenbond   (Member)

A magnificent score, and even has a scene in a church where some carolers are sining "Silent Night" in German.

The song you mention is actually sung in Norwegian, but some of the military marches have lyrics in German. Makes you wanna invade a country! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 3:15 AM   
 By:   mortenbond   (Member)

A magnificent score, and even has a scene in a church where some carolers are sining "Silent Night" in German.

The song you mention is actually sung in Norwegian, but some of the military marches have lyrics in German. Makes you wanna invade a country! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 3:23 AM   
 By:   mortenbond   (Member)

The sound on the original OST LP was pretty bad, so that probably accounts for what you're hearing on that download.

Incidentally, in his autobiography, Kirk Douglas refers to this film as one he felt he "owed" director Anthony Mann for the way he had been ousted from SPARTACUS, and he, Douglas, was glad he got the chance to repay his debt before Mann passed away.


If I am not mistaken, Kirk Douglas`company produced "Telemark", so what you write makes sense.

The film never got the audience it deserved, but is actually quite good. Some films by the old Hollywood directors come across as over-blown and very long, but this film has a tight narrative, quick editing and feels more 60s than 50s or 40s. Which makes it suspenseful and "modern". It hold up nicely. The music by Arnold is also more melodic and modern in a sense, than some of his earlier efforts, that tend to me atonal and more like contemporary concert music. Some cues are very close to Bridge on the River Kwai, but with that great Telemark theme that is very, very hummable, but alas not very knwon to most score fans. A pity, really!

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Some cues are very close to Bridge on the River Kwai, but with that great Telemark theme that is very, very hummable, but alas not very known to most score fans. A pity, really!


That may be part of the problem. Yes, the score is great, and it's a decent film, but the main theme is basically Arnold's famous 'adventure' theme which he rehashed for many films, 'A Hill in Korea', 'Dunkirk', 'Kwai', 'Telemark', and even 'Sixth Happiness', they're all using the basic same tune within the rules of melodic variation.

This was his basic philosophy for film: a template score redone to fit situations. Somebody here got very angry once when this was mentioned, but it's straight and obvious.

Arnold hated the musical establishment, feeling they were snobs who'd snubbed him, and so, for that and the money, he scored films, but he had a tongue-in-cheek attitude to Hollywood too, never a love for the art as such.

Good score, needs a release indeed, but it reveals the cracks in his trickery.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)


Melodic, heroic and suspenseful. There is an atroicious sounding donwload availabe on Itunes. This score deserves a re-recording (calling Ramon Gumba), or a proper release of the complete score.

Would love to hear if anyone else agree with this.


I agree that Malcolm Arnold's music overall (TELEMARK as well as all the other soundtrack LPs and unreleased film music, too) should be available and better known.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

The sound on the original OST LP was pretty bad, so that probably accounts for what you're hearing on that download.


Here's nice scans of the Mainstream LP:



 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

but alas not very knwon to most score fans. A pity, really!

Longtime soundtrack collectors who have (or had) significant vinyl LP accumulations should be very well aware of the existence of "The Heroes Of Telemark", but most of these folks don't appear to be actively contributing to current FSM threads (and a number of them have no doubt deceased).

A copy of this Mainstream LP has been in my collection for about 25 years (as I had acquired it around 1990). I'm so accustomed to the tinny/chanelled sound that it doesn't annoy me.
If the album master tapes could be restored and remastered for a new lease on CD life, then I'd be satisfied. Wouldn't say no to a digital re-recording, either. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Here's some completely useless trivia that has nothing to do with the topic. See that bridge in the poster above?

Well, I bungee-jumped from the ORIGINAL Telemark bridge some 10 years ago -- a straight 85 meter drop! Here's the footage to prove it:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=45324126277&l=3952227162830859531

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   morten   (Member)

Hello Ialso want the score of Heroes of Telemark.
Iam also a Norwegian,and have seen the New tv serie,and its good.
I also want to get in contact With bondman

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   morten   (Member)

Hello Ialso want the score of Heroes of Telemark.
Iam also a Norwegian,and have seen the New tv serie,and its good.
I also want to get in contact With bondman

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

I'd love to see the film and score get quality releases on disc. The film could do with a restoration to blu-ray standards, and the score would be worth doing at the same time.

And I will also trot out my previously stated (in some other thread of years gone by) point that the scenes of the ship leaving Norway and arriving in the UK were both shot in and around the port of my home town of Poole, in Dorset, United Kingdom. Not very Norwegian and not correct for the port of arrival in the UK either, I'll bet smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Incidentally, in his autobiography, Kirk Douglas refers to this film as one he felt he "owed" director Anthony Mann for the way he had been ousted from SPARTACUS, and he, Douglas, was glad he got the chance to repay his debt before Mann passed away.
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If I am not mistaken, Kirk Douglas`company produced "Telemark", so what you write makes sense.


I'm not sure about that. THE HEROES OF TELEMARK was produced by Benton Film Productions, the only film ever made by that company. Kirk Douglas' production company was named Bryna (first as Bryna Productions, later as The Bryna Company).

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Michael douglas it says was Second assistant director!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2015 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   mortenbond   (Member)

Michael douglas it says was Second assistant director!

True, and he actually dated a local girl called Kari while staying at Vemork. He talked about that in an interview recently.

 
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